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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: WimB on March 13, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
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Haven't heard a lot about these beauties for a while...they might be a bit thuggish but I still love them...
For today:
A nice new double form: Ranunculus ficaria 'Graham Joseph'
and the first named double Orange flowering form: Ranunculus ficaria 'Nathalie'
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They're very nice Wim and Mark will be cheered to see them too. :)
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Some more,
Ranunculus ficaria 'Brazen Hussy' and her sister 'Coy Hussy' (with a few green flecks on her leaves)
Ranunculus ficaria 'Double Bronze'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Picton's Double'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Salad Bowl' (A personal favourite and completely sterile)
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Ranunculus ficaria 'Salmon's White'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Art Nouveau'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Dahlem'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Martin Gibbs Progeny'
and some cultivars together in my garden.
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Some more,
Ranunculus ficaria 'Brazen Hussy' and her sister 'Coy Hussy' (with a few green flecks on her leaves)
Ranunculus ficaria 'Double Bronze'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Picton's Double'
Ranunculus ficaria 'Salad Bowl' (A personal favourite and completely sterile)
WOW. Just love that Ranunculus ficaria 'Salad Bowl'. :o :o Do you know of a supplier in the uk Wim ?
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It's fascinating - and completely mad!
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WOW. Just love that Ranunculus ficaria 'Salad Bowl'. :o :o Do you know of a supplier in the uk Wim ?
I'm sorry, but I don't know if anyone in the UK sells it! Your best bet might be either Monksilver nursery or Natural Selection.
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Possibly not too many celandine-fanciers here but I like them. What is the best way to increase the stock? They have corms a bit like miniature dahlia tubers. Should I wait until the plant goes dormant in summer then split off some of these corms in the same way that you would with a dahlia?
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Possibly not too many celandine-fanciers here but I like them. What is the best way to increase the stock? They have corms a bit like miniature dahlia tubers. Should I wait until the plant goes dormant in summer then split off some of these corms in the same way that you would with a dahlia?
Alan, increasing them is not really hard, you can lift them now and divide them, as long as you make sure you have some corms with a crown, you'll have a new plant. And if you divide in Summer almost every separare "tuber" can make a new plant in the following Spring!
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Have you looked at the list here?
http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/ranunculusficaria/genus.html (http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/ranunculusficaria/genus.html)
Click on each one for an image.
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Nice to see other people who appreciate these plants. In my garden they disappear as the garden dries out so they're definitely not thugs at all, just charming. Thanks for the link. I had no idea how many varieties there were.
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In the first incarnation of the SRGC Forum we had a large section devoted to R. ficaria varieties - there were masses of them - all were lost when that forum was lost. So sad that all those years of the forum were lost. :'(
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Thank you for the wonderful link Palustris. I shall definitely be adding a few more to mine and my Mum's small
collection.
Does he actually sell any plants ?
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Innes Hogg sells a few cultivars, Cheryl : http://www.craigiehallnursery.co.uk/ourshop/cat_583436-Plants-R.html (http://www.craigiehallnursery.co.uk/ourshop/cat_583436-Plants-R.html)
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So sad that all those years of the forum were lost. :'(
I had a look to see what had been archived, here for example https://web.archive.org/web/20100113134233/http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/8/5092.html?1113744330 (https://web.archive.org/web/20100113134233/http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/8/5092.html?1113744330)
But the pictures are lost (or at best separated from the text and archived elsewhere).
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It's an odd thing with the "WayBack" thing - sometimes the photos are preserved, sometimes not.
And. of course, their records are not complete.
Re photos: For instance, some of
the photos of the blackbirds nesting in our glasshouse are included here :
https://web.archive.org/web/20110703133621/http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/321/2151.html?1107207705 (https://web.archive.org/web/20110703133621/http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/321/2151.html?1107207705)
I'll attach the posts in the link shown by Alan above here- as a wee record, at least :
pdf of archived Ranuncula ficaria cultivars
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Thank you very much for the link Maggi ;D
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Ranunculus ficaria 'Double Green Eye' not everyone's cup tea but I love it.
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Alan, increasing them is not really hard, you can lift them now and divide them, as long as you make sure you have some corms with a crown, you'll have a new plant. And if you divide in Summer almost every separare "tuber" can make a new plant in the following Spring!
Managing NOT to propagate them seems to me to be the problem. ::)
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My garden was blessed with a form of Ranunculus ficaria which also produced little 'bulbs' ("tubercules") from the leaf nodes - a characteristic that does not seem to be shared by the cultivated varieties. I have been trying to eliminate this form in favour of my cultivars and their seedlings with some success. The cultivars tend to be low-growing and they are only above ground for a few months each year so they would not really be a severe problem even if they got a bit out of hand. My aim is to use the dark-leaved forms as a contrasting ground cover against which to view other spring flowers, snowdrops for example.
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Would the ranuculus foliage be out early enough to achieve that purpose, Alan? I don't think it would be up here.
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I love these plants and used to have a massive collection until cats started digging them out and wood pigeons began eating them. I will start again but next time they will be grown in tiny baskets
They are looking good in my garden but are now through each other
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Would the ranuculus foliage be out early enough to achieve that purpose, Alan?
Good question, Maggi. I find that mature plants tend to produce some foliage quite early and so yes, early enough for the bulk of the snowdrops. But it might be that enough celandines to give full coverage of the soil in February would become too dense by flowering time in March - I have not reached that stage yet to find out.
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Mark, I had one year when the squirrels and chipmunks were digging in the R. ficaria and Dicentra cucullaria area like mad. I was sure they'd all be gone in the spring. But what happened is that they spread both plants everywhere. It was the easiest propagating ever.
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I have observed wood pigeons eating the corms of ranunculus ficaria but fortunately for me the were eating the ranunculus ficaria var. bulbifer ones that I want rid of. I don't think they bother to go prospecting if they can find some tubers above ground as they can in that case.
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This is a particularly large-leaved form that I found last year; the one I want to propagate.
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Lovely leaf colour Alan.
The flowers look good even when closed with that very nice red shading to the back of the petals
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Interesting plant, Alan!
I found one with dark spots in the middle of the leaf. So that seems to be a trait that is not totally unusual.
The first two photos are F. ficaria 'Randall's White' - but the silvery colour of the leaves isn't always as prominent as on the first photo
Third photo: good old 'Picton's Double'
Fourth: 'Ken Aslet'
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I have just bought from John Carter a copy of his report on his (then) National Collection of Ranunculus ficaria written in 2007. This cost £15 for a soft copy in Word format and runs to 47 pages. It is a comprehensive account of all his cultivars, illustrated with small photographs. I have not read it thoroughly yet but it seems very good. You can contact John via his website: http://www.rowdengardens.com/ (http://www.rowdengardens.com/)
John's basic form of e-publishing seems an interesting way to make a little money from a work of reference but one has to trust the purchasers not to abuse the copyright.
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I used to have it but lost it. No list of Ranunculus on his web site
Here is something new. Its not the best photo. My camera doesn't like the combination of colours - R. f. Sun Wheel
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I used to have it but lost it.
Perhaps you could ask John Carter for another copy? If he keeps good records he will have one of your previous payment.
No list of Ranunculus on his web site
He told me mice became a problem, forcing him to give up his National Collection.
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'Sun Wheel' is very beautiful, Mark!
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WE liked R. f. Brazen Hussy in the first place. but now it has completely over-run the garden. Attached picture is just one of three bowlfuls Brian has weeded out this week.
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WE liked R. f. Brazen Hussy in the first place. but now it has completely over-run the garden.
But does it do any harm? It a spring ground-cover that will have completely vanished by about a month from now. The leaves protect the soil and stop other low-growing plants being splashed when it rains. The dark leaves make a good backdrop for lighter-coloured flowers. The only possible objection I can see is if you are trying to achieve a colour scheme that does not permit the yellow flowers.
Also, this year my local up-market garden centre was selling pots of Brazen Hussey at £4 apiece so you should be marketing the plants you weed-out.
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I don't know where I got this from but my label says Ranunculus ficaria vat. aurantiacus. Images of this on Google don't look like my plant?
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The John Jerrard web site is a great resource for pictures of Ranunculus ficaria. Here is a link to 'auranticus' http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/ranunculusficaria/ranunculusficariaaurantiacus/species.html. (http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/ranunculusficaria/ranunculusficariaaurantiacus/species.html.) It's a nice orange colour becoming two-tone with age, unlike yours David.
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Some mixed up named plants and self sown seedlings in the garden.
To the eye each is different but the camera doesn't see much difference
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Put that lot under your chin ,Mark, and you'll glow like a canary ! Pretty when we see the flowers together.
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Put that lot under your chin ,Mark, and you'll glow like a canary ! Pretty when we see the flowers together.
I'd bet kids don't do buttercups under chins anymore or shove dandelions in the face and shout "pee the bed"
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In my childhood both plants were used for divination.
If your chin reflected the yellow glow of the buttercup held beneath it that indicated that you 'like butter'.
If you blew on the dandelion seed head then counted the number of seeds remaining that told you what the time was. The more sophisticated of used to refer to a device strapped to our wrist to tell the time but I don't think kids do that any more either.
We never did the 'shove in the face' thing although I was always taught that dandelions are called 'pis-en-lit' in French because the leaves are diuretic.
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A nice seedling in the garden. A nice seedling in the garden. If I had realised the photo was out of focus I would have taken more but I cant because I picked the only flower
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That is a nice one, Mark, but I presume it is in it's mature phase now and looked different when it first opened.
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It opened pale orange also but I didn't photograph it
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Just been reading a note in the May edition of The Garden that Ranunculus ficaria has now been separated from Ranunculus and is now named as Ficaria verna.
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I think I read that last year. For me they will remain R. ficaria ;D
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I shall not be re-writing my labels!
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I shall not be re-writing my labels!
Labels ? What are they again? ;)
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I think they are deer food.
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I have quite a few plants with leaves showing now. I don't remember seeing them develop this early before - but perhaps I just haven't been observant?