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Title: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 14, 2014, 08:27:01 AM
This came from Otto and I think Marcus was selling it as "Green outer tips" but now thinks it might be 'Comet',
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Oakwood on July 14, 2014, 08:39:43 AM
nice clone! How did our northern sphere drops (spring-flowering) come into flowers in southern sphere with a half-year shift (e.g. July)?? ???
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 15, 2014, 12:47:19 AM
Good morning Fermi ,
    this snowdrop came to me from Chris Brickell (ex Wisley ) labelled Gal. elwesii "Green Outer Tip" in 1982 and like all elwesii proliferates in my garden .
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 15, 2014, 03:11:49 AM
nice clone! How did our northern sphere drops (spring-flowering) come into flowers in southern sphere with a half-year shift (e.g. July)?? ???
Hi Dimitri,
it's the depth of winter here in the Southern Hemisphere which is usually when the Galanthus elwesii start to flower. We don't get severe winters and no snow where I am, though Otto does get some occasionally,
Thanks, Otto, for clarifying,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 15, 2014, 08:44:08 AM
My latest snowdrop arrived today, as a very pretty card, G. 'Corrin,' painted by Anne Wright but enclosing some very precious seed sent from Sweden.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 16, 2014, 12:33:17 AM
Good morning Lesley , I'm anxious to see what G. 'Corrin' looks like . After the 2011 Conference we visited Bob and Rannveig  Wallace and they kindly gave me a few seeds of this snowdrop which is named after their daughter .I think I will get the first flower shortly - I believe it is in the 'Trym' vicinity .

     Hope you have fully recovered '
                                            love ,
                                                       Otto.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 16, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Hello Otto, I took a picture of the card this morning but then the battery went down and my charger is...somewhere, so I'll need to find it or get some new batteries tomorrow then I can post the pic, also one of G. elwesii 'Emerald Hughes' which I think is my most favourite snowdrop, so vigorous and generous as well as being large and quite spectacular when in flower. Denis Hughes will be speaking to OAGG tomorrow night (Thurs) so I may find out some more of its origins, date and so on. I'm not such if it was his selection or that of his father, the late Stanley H.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on July 16, 2014, 11:26:39 AM
I don't think Anne Wright will mind me showing her picture of Galanthus 'Corrin':
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Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 17, 2014, 04:57:26 AM
Thanks Maggi. I won't bother with mine now. The "Trym" Group affiliation is quite obvious (mind you, I've only seen 'Trym' on the Forum, not in the flesh, so to speak. :)
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 17, 2014, 10:30:43 PM
Are there any "Trym" type snowdrops in New Zealand? My seedlings are coming up again, so snowdrops seem to cope with Auckland's mild (ground frost today) winters.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Jupiter on July 18, 2014, 12:42:53 AM

I've hesitated to post here until now, being a newcomer to Galanthus and so many seasoned experts dwell here. However, I figure in for a penny, in for a pound. What better way to learn?

I'm in the Adelaide Hills have a cool shady back garden which is rapidly filling up with all manner of strange and wonderful green things.

Here is my Galanthus elwesii, some of it two seasons in my garden and 3 new bulbs will be first season flowering here. Interestingly, the bulbs that endured our terrible summer here flowered months ahead of the new introductions. Perhaps it was the strange, warmer than average autumn we had and late start to winter which confused them?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5531/14423807044_736330af5f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nYzMjm)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3885/14238481637_cd34dd2ea0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nGcWwH)


And here is the new love in my life, a recent acquisition and already entrancing all who lay eyes on her. Galanthus rizehensis


(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3845/14671506401_34c0e48679_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omtiGV)


I have a couple of others which I will post when (if) they flower...
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Alan_b on July 18, 2014, 07:43:54 AM
Superb photographs, Jupiter.  There was no need to hesitate.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: ChrisB on July 18, 2014, 07:55:07 AM
Lovely to look at cool snowdrops in our"heat wave" ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on July 18, 2014, 10:59:27 AM
Superb photographs, Jupiter.  There was no need to hesitate.

Well said, Alan - lovely photos of these  bulbs which are looking very good indeed.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Jupiter on July 18, 2014, 11:46:08 AM

Thank you everyone. I enjoy the photography side of it and it's always fun trying to do justice to a special plant.

I love that 'green outer tip', lovely.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Mavers on July 18, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
Hi Jupiter thanks for the photos, I didn't realise you could grow 'snowies' in Adelaide.... 8)

Welcome to the forum.

I have relatives in Adelaide.........perhaps someday I will be able to face the long flight & see them.

Mike
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 22, 2014, 03:48:29 AM
Anthony I don't know of anyone who has 'Trym' itself or any from the so-called 'Trym' Group. That I don't know of anyone of course doesn't mean it's not here but as we all know, word gets around when something good appears. Was it Otto who mentioned a while back that he had seedlings from the group so maybe that's our best bet if someone in Europe or the UK has spare seed. I'm thrilled that AW's seed is germinating now, from her yellow marked forms. :) :) :)

Below, a not very good pic of G. elwesii 'Emerald Hughes." I was quite happy with my potful, a dozen flowers, until last Thursday night when Denis Hughes of Blue Mountain Nursery gave a talk on the nursery's beginnings and history and many of their introductions, and one of his photos was of this superb form. There were rows and rows - literally many thousands!

Please note the first pic is wrongly named. The second is correct.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: annew on July 22, 2014, 07:57:03 AM
I'm thrilled that AW's seed is germinating now, from her yellow marked forms. :) :) :)
:D
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 22, 2014, 08:41:19 AM
Below, a not very good pic of G. elwesii 'Emerald Hughes." I was quite happy with my potful, a dozen flowers, until last Thursday night when Denis Hughes of Blue Mountain Nursery gave a talk on the nursery's beginnings and history and many of their introductions, and one of his photos was of this superb form. There were rows and rows - literally many thousands!

Wow, that must have been a sight :o
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on July 22, 2014, 10:46:47 AM
While the 'drop fiends drool at the flowers from the Southern Hemisphere - you may like to know that there are  a small selection of dormant Snowdrops available now on the Cornoviviumsorry, Cornovium website now http://www.cornoviumsnowdrops.co.uk (http://www.cornoviumsnowdrops.co.uk)  :-)
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 22, 2014, 11:29:09 AM
Thanks Maggie, I must join up!
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 23, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
Lesley and Anthony  , the good news : G. 'Trym' , 'Trymlet' , and 'Megan' are growing in Australia , some only as single items .

 Lesley G. elwesii 'Hughes' Emerald ' is very nice . Could it be a hybrid with plicatus ?
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 23, 2014, 07:41:16 AM
The bad news Otto, is they might as well be growing in the UK. :(
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 23, 2014, 09:52:53 AM
True Anthony, s far as we're concerned but at least the Australians have them, even if we don't/can't. :'( :'( :'(

Otto I think 'Emerald Hughes' is pure elwesii. There's nothing of plicatus in the foliage and the green marking is very elwesii, as is the general shape of the petal and the whole flower. I love the way it makes wide winged, "helicopters" when in the warmth of the sun or a room. The flower compared with other forms is very large whereas plicatus, in my experience tends to be quite small; small flowers and lots of foliage.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Mini bulb lover on July 26, 2014, 09:17:47 AM
We had our AGS meeting this afternoon. Otto bought in some lovely Galanthus and he suggested that I put some photos of them here on the forum. Unfortunately I forgot to take my good camera so I had to use my mobile phone camera (a bit grainy but it will have to do).

G. 'Megan'
G. 'Cicely Hall'
G. 'John Hall Gray'
G. 'Rosemary Burnham'
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: David Nicholson on July 26, 2014, 09:51:42 AM
Very nice Jon. You do realise that this will get NH Galanthophiles into a state!
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 26, 2014, 09:58:30 AM
You do realise that this will get NH Galanthophiles into a state!
I think we're in a permanent 'state' David.

By the way Jon that should be 'Megan', they are lovely ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Mini bulb lover on July 26, 2014, 10:39:31 AM
Very nice Jon. You do realise that this will get NH Galanthophiles into a state!

They grow like weeds here David...   ;)

It might even get some SH Galanthophiles in a state too. Otto's garden is a treasure trove!

Thanks Brian, I've amended the name.
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 26, 2014, 02:03:52 PM
We had our AGS meeting this afternoon. Otto bought in some lovely Galanthus and he suggested that I put some photos of them here .....
.....
G. 'John Hall'

Jon,
You'll be getting those NH galanthophiles into a real state if you don't correct that to John Gray!
 ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 27, 2014, 08:17:54 AM
Jon,
You'll be getting those NH galanthophiles into a real state if you don't correct that to John Gray!
 ;D
cheers
fermi
...and there was me thinking it was a new SH galanthus ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on July 27, 2014, 06:41:15 PM
it is a pleasure to see your fine pics of galanthus, Jupiter! We have to wait the next 8 weeks. Then our autumn season starts powerful :)
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 28, 2014, 12:10:12 AM
...and there was me thinking it was a new SH galanthus ::)
Named after an ABC newsreader perhaps? ;D
Otto was also very generous as he brought enough "spare" bulbs of Galanthus rizehensis for everyone at the meeting!
This is one that does "grow like a weed" for him,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Jupiter on July 28, 2014, 11:19:11 AM
Thanks Hagen, I'm feeling quite welcome here now. Fermi, I'm proud to have been the recipient of some of those "spare" G.rizehensis from Otto, as well as a few other wonderful gems of the genus. Here are two more;


Galanthus elwesii with quite different markings from the clone I bought from Marcus



https://www.flickr.com/photos/jstonor/14751467591/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jstonor/14751467591/)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3848/14752247834_44c03f3f02_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/otB8jA)



Galanthus nivalis 'S. Arnott'

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5570/14751467591_e00c99c8e4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/otx8o8)



Title: Re: Galanthus in flower in July 2014
Post by: Maggi Young on July 28, 2014, 11:49:10 AM
Lovely portraits, Jupiter
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