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Title: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on February 15, 2015, 06:23:03 PM
Nothoscordum ostenii (from Uruguay) opened today in a sunny window.

This has a very small flower.

it is cold here, today's high temp was -17ºC
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on February 15, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
That's kinda chilly outside, Rimmer  :o

That tiny yellow "sun" is a charm though.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Mark Griffiths on February 15, 2015, 10:15:04 PM
very nice, what a great colour!
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: WimB on February 23, 2015, 03:15:48 PM
Two creations of our beloved despot....

Tecophilaea cyanocrocus 'Craigton Cloud' and Tecophilaea cyanocrocus 'Craigton Snowdrift' (the last one with an unwanted visitor >:( ). Bought them last year and they already are rewarding me with a flower each (and more to follow)....

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Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on March 19, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
From the greenhouse today:-

Tristagma (Ipheion) sellowianum
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 20, 2015, 02:58:08 PM
Tecophilaea near or at it's peak.

Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
Superb potful, Mark - aren't these just a wonderful blue?
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 20, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
From the greenhouse today:-

Tristagma (Ipheion) sellowianum

Very nice David.
Are These are the ones with 8 tepals?

How do you get these to all bloom at once and all pointing  upward?
My plants have been blooming sporadically since January and after the first day the flower stems tend to twist about mostly becoming prostrate.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnw on March 20, 2015, 07:18:20 PM
Amazingly well grown Mark.   Ours flop but then again they flower in the cold greenhouse here perhaps due to the stronger sun in late January.

john
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: arilnut on March 21, 2015, 12:56:22 AM
Here is my first flower on tecophilia.  Been growing for 5 years in the garden in Kansas zone 6.
Always put up leaves in spring but didn't bloom until now.  BEAUTUFUL!!!   YIPPEEE

John B
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 22, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Leucocoryene purpurea have been blooming in my basement for the past few weeks
Thank you Arnold


Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 22, 2015, 04:58:07 PM
very nice Rimmer, how tall are they?
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 22, 2015, 05:34:53 PM
very nice Rimmer, how tall are they?

about 16-18" tall, if they don't get top light they squiggle.

Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on March 22, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
Very nice David.
Are These are the ones with 8 tepals?

How do you get these to all bloom at once and all pointing  upward?
My plants have been blooming sporadically since January and after the first day the flower stems tend to twist about mostly becoming prostrate.

Rimmer, sorry not to have replied before. My Tristagma sellowianum have 6 tepals. I thought you might be interested in some comments Alberto Castillo made on The Forum on April 5th 2009, Reply 379.

"Concerning the difference between "I" sellowianum and dialystemon,

sellowianum always has 6 tepals
dialystemon always has 8 tepals, seedlings invariably having 8 tepals"

As to how I get them to flower at once and all pointing upwards well, maybe it's pure chance and neglect ;D

Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 25, 2015, 04:25:20 PM
a few more pics of the tecophilea. The normal blue form seems to be catching up with the paler variety after probably 20 years. The violet form is still only about half that of the other two.

Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2015, 05:23:57 PM
Really enjoying seeing your Tecos, Mark. Something about them really appeals to me- sometimes think the show pots we see are too leaf-heavy.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 26, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
Phaedranassa tunguraguae aff glaucifolia
 less than 2 yrs from seed to flower bud.

so nice to have something work so well.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 26, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
Rimmer, sorry not to have replied before. My Tristagma sellowianum have 6 tepals. I thought you might be interested in some comments Alberto Castillo made on The Forum on April 5th 2009, Reply 379.

"Concerning the difference between "I" sellowianum and dialystemon,

sellowianum always has 6 tepals
dialystemon always has 8 tepals, seedlings invariably having 8 tepals"

As to how I get them to flower at once and all pointing upwards well, maybe it's pure chance and neglect ;D

Thanks David
i ask because almost all the  sellowianum i see offered for sale have photos with 8 tepals.
i grow dialystemon with 8 tepals and the flower stems go prostrate after the first day of flowering.
I would live to find some of these with 6 tepals.

Rimmer
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 10, 2015, 12:37:19 PM
The phaedranassa seedling is blooming and the filaments are pink so it cannot be P. tunguraguae.  It is now believed to be Phaedranassa glaucifolia or aff. to glaucifolia due to the glaucous foliage reverse, stem and flowers.

Any thoughts?

 photos of the growth and life of these plants can be  seen on flicker:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32952654@N06/sets/72157649493945903/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/32952654@N06/sets/72157649493945903/)

Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 10, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Eithea blumenavia - nice little 6" tall relative to Griffinia - blooming now from 0.75 inch (2cm) diameter bulb
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 10, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
Does this have another name? Mr Google can't find it.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: jshields on April 10, 2015, 02:09:32 PM
Eithea blumenavia is the currently accepted name; used to be Hippeastrum blumenavia.

Jim
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 10, 2015, 06:31:17 PM
Somebody needs to put it on the PBS wiki!
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Hans J on April 10, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
please look here :

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eithea (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eithea)
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on April 10, 2015, 07:40:26 PM
please look here :

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eithea (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eithea)

       :D 8) 8)
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 10, 2015, 10:42:28 PM
I probably entered a wrong spelling when I did a search...Eithia rather than Eithea!
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on April 18, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
Leucocoryne and Tropaeolum tricolor making a fine show in the glasshouse just now.

Paul

Leucocoryne en masse
Leucocoryne 'Blue Ocean'
Leucocoryne cocquimbensis
Leucocoryne vittata
Tropaeolum tricolor
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 18, 2015, 04:58:03 PM
Paul, very nice.

How tall are the Leucocoryne? I have a number of seedlings (purpurea etc) which after years are still very small. I also have L. ixioides which seems a much smaller plant.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: fixpix on April 18, 2015, 05:48:15 PM
Very nice, indeed, Paul. Never seen that L. thing :)
Too bad it can't grow out in the garden.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on April 18, 2015, 09:06:46 PM
Mark, the flowering stems can reach anything from 30 to 60 cm (1 to 2 feet) - mine are probably a bit taller than average due to being a bit stretched in a glasshouse that gets less than the ideal amount of sunlight. The flowers are long-lived, including when cut and as a result this genus is being developed for the cut flower trade. They are winter growers and like a cool (but not freezing) moist winter followed by a warm, dry summer when they are dormant. They enjoy deep planting - you always find them at the very bottom of the pot, even if in deep long tom pots. The leaves are grassy and often are already withering as the flowers emerge at the end of their growing season.

Paul
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Mark Griffiths on April 19, 2015, 10:27:36 AM
thanks Paul, that's the basic treatment I've been giving them.

maybe the seedlings will put on weight with age - I certainly have.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 22, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
Tristagma Ex 'Alberto Castillo' from AGS seed two years ago.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnw on June 23, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
The first Rhodophiala of the year, a cheery little thing.  The label says araucana/elwesii but I think it was crossed with advena. Thoughts?

johnw
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnw on June 25, 2015, 05:12:26 PM
Rhodophiala araucana/elwesii in hot pursuit for #2 spot, 7-8 more stalks on the rise.

johnw
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnw on June 30, 2015, 07:42:21 PM
And those Rhodophialas today.............

johnw
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: François Lambert on August 13, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
I'm really delighted by these wonderful Irids  8)  And they match the picture on E-bay where I purchased the seeds last year in January (I immediately had a crush for these when I saw them).  Sown in spring 2014 they did not really grow a lot untill fall when they suddenly started to grow new bigger leaves.  I thought this was because the seeds originated from Australia and the plants still were in some way on a Southern hemisphere seasonal pattern  8)  Anyway, they spend the winter in the green on a windowsill and were moved outside this spring.  I just hope that this winter they will go for a rest because that windowsill is no longer available to them.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: David Nicholson on August 13, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
A beautiful blue Francois.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on August 13, 2015, 03:01:11 PM
I'm thinking the same thing - a really striking blue. And not long for them to flower from seed. 
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rogan on October 20, 2015, 10:59:34 AM
One of my favourite South Americans, Herbertia pulchella - aren't they all our favourites when in bloom?  :D
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rogan on October 20, 2015, 11:09:16 AM
...and another: Calydorea xiphioides.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Maggi Young on October 20, 2015, 12:41:54 PM
One of my favourite South Americans, Herbertia pulchella - aren't they all our favourites when in bloom?  :D

 Yes. that's exactly it, isn't it? As each plant comes into flower we fall in love again! :)
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2015, 01:23:33 PM
Conanthera campanulata
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on November 28, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
Phaedranassa dubia ex Ecuador: Imbabura, R. Ornduff 9674

i was a bit dubious it was dubia at first but as the flowers grew the red came in.

 
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnw on November 28, 2015, 08:54:12 PM
Rimmer      - Did you have any trouble sprouting the original seed?  I ask as I got seed last year from the AGCBC and nothing sprouted.  Was hoping it would appear again there or on the SRGC seedex but none.

Smashing!

johnw
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on November 28, 2015, 09:57:52 PM
Hi John.
This one came from Dylan Hannon as a small bulb in August 2014.

But I have germinated quite a few phaedranassa in a germ box on blotter paper. Either they germinate very quickly or they rot. Now I am doing these in water with a baggie on top of a small cup and refresh the water weekly until they have roots, then plant out. 

Last spring I bloomed a Phaedranassa that came as P. tunguraguae but was later identified as P. aff glaucifolia in less than 2 yrs From seed.
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12809.msg329112#msg329112 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12809.msg329112#msg329112)

The current AGS seed ex has P. dubia listed.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: johnw on November 29, 2015, 03:03:58 PM
Rimmer

Thanks for the AGS tip, I'm onto it!

john
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 02, 2015, 03:16:45 PM
open flowers on Phaedranassa dubia ex Ecuador: Imbabura, R. Ornduff 9674

The flower stem or scape is over 2 feet long.
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 06, 2015, 09:42:40 PM
some more close ups with flash
last pic taken 17 Dec of faded blooms
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 06, 2015, 09:45:19 PM
Phaedranassa cinerea flower bud on 6 Dec
- seed started 3 October 2013- in germ box on blotter paper.

some follow up pics taken 17 Dec
Title: Re: South American Bulbs 2015
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 21, 2015, 01:56:59 PM
Phaedranassa cinerea seedling, now with open flower. 
is this plant identified correctly? 

many of these Phaedranassa seem to look the same.
this one is about 14 inches tall in bloom,  the P dubia above was about 3 feet tall in bloom.
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