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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Margaret on October 16, 2016, 12:42:38 PM

Title: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Margaret on October 16, 2016, 12:42:38 PM

I've been asked about this 8ft tall plant. At first glance it looked like chicory but the leaves and inflorescence aren't right.
Title: Re: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Gabriela on October 16, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
It can be something in the Lactuca/Mulgedium or more likely a Cicerbita. The pictures are a bit deceiving not showing the basal leaves.
Title: Re: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Margaret on October 16, 2016, 04:35:58 PM

Thank you, Gabriela. Great identification.  It looks like Cicerbita plumieri. https://www.rightplants4me.co.uk/content/plant?PlantID=1579&LatinName=Cicerbita%20plumieri (https://www.rightplants4me.co.uk/content/plant?PlantID=1579&LatinName=Cicerbita%20plumieri)

Do you agree?
Title: Re: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Gabriela on October 16, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
The pictures on that website are really fuzzy Margaret. I googled for Cicerbita plumieri - shown in the wild, see below, and it doesn't quite fit with your plant. But maybe you have more picture to see details.

http://herbierdicietdailleurs.eklablog.com/lactuca-plumieri-cicerbitia-plumieri-laitue-de-plumier-a47460960 (http://herbierdicietdailleurs.eklablog.com/lactuca-plumieri-cicerbitia-plumieri-laitue-de-plumier-a47460960)
Title: Re: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Philippe on October 16, 2016, 07:03:51 PM
Definitely not Cicerbita plumieri. It grows in the wild around here. Stem upper leaves are lobed, even if less than basal ones, but still clearly lobed, and I cannot remember seing them so nicely arranged. All in all, C.plumieri is a rather acceptable plant when flowering, but otherwise nothing really beautiful or garden worth.
Title: Re: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Gabriela on October 16, 2016, 07:34:14 PM
How about this - Cicerbita/Lactuca bourgaei? Having problems ID a Lactuca ???
http://fjpower.forumgratuit.org/t8512-lactuca-bourgaei-cicerbita-bourgaei (http://fjpower.forumgratuit.org/t8512-lactuca-bourgaei-cicerbita-bourgaei)

Title: Re: Plant ID needed please
Post by: Margaret on October 16, 2016, 08:01:13 PM

Thank you Gabriela and Philippe.  Cicerbita bourgaei sounds exactly right - no lobes on upper leaves and the 3m height. Great.
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