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Title: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 01, 2018, 10:25:12 AM
Still winter here but the days are getting longer and we are spending more time outdoors.
Here is Galanthus 'Primrose Warburg' a kind gift from Otto though when he saw it he said "it should be 3 times that size!"
What can I say - she's got a tougher life up here in the country!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 01, 2018, 10:57:03 AM
Well I think your 'Primrose Warburg' is cute Fermi. :)
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 02, 2018, 07:27:00 AM
I think Fermi is cute, never mind the Galanthus. ;D
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on August 02, 2018, 08:53:24 AM
But I am the cutest of all ;D
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 02, 2018, 11:36:45 AM
But I am the cutest of all ;D
David,
there is no one here who will deny that! ;D and a hard worker for the club, too :-*
Here are some other flowers in our winter garden:
1 & 2) Pomaderris obcordata 'Mallee Princess'
3 & 4) Hakea species
5) Anemone coronaria from seed from Iraq
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 02, 2018, 11:42:26 AM
I did a quick lap of the garden this morning before work and snapped a few Narcissus and a one retic.

1. Narcissus 'Smarple'
2. N. 'Mitimoto'
3. N. campernelle
4. N cyclamineus 'Hint of green'
5. Iris reticulata 'Harmony'
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 04, 2018, 03:02:46 PM
Today was the Rock garden group meeting at FCHS and there were some interesting things on the bench - pretty good for the middle of winter!
1) A view of the bench
2) Jon B's Narcissus triandrus ssp triandrus
3) Jon B's Cyclamen coum
4) Helene's Narcissus fernandesii ssp cordubensis
5) Rex's community pot of Cyclamen coum
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 04, 2018, 03:21:14 PM
George and Judy brought a very nice collection:
1) Lachenalia
2) Tecophilea
3) Babiana odorata
4) Haemanthus pauciflora
5) Whiteheadia bifolia
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 04, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
Look's like George dominated the show bench! Beautiful offerings for dark days.

1. Narc. cyclamineus
2. Crocus chrysanthus 'Zwanenburg Bronze'
3. Androsace lanuginosa
4 Galanthus 'Hippolyta'
5 unknown white parma violet
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 04, 2018, 11:13:28 PM

Otto if you're reading this, can you please have a look at this yellow snowdrop and suggest a possible identity? It became separated from its label. It would have come from your garden.
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on August 06, 2018, 01:24:59 AM
Good morning Jamus ,    your yellow snowdrop  is Wendy's Gold . Happy to see that Iris bucharica is growing well in your garden . Mine will be another month before they flower .
In case you grow the pink form of Androsace lanuginosa which is var. leichtlinii could you please strike me a cutting ? 
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 07, 2018, 12:02:18 PM
Yes of course I'll strike a cutting of the different one i have Otto, but I'm not sure it's var. leichtlinii. When it flowers again I'll post pictures and we'll see.
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 07, 2018, 02:51:05 PM
A few more from our garden:
1) More Anemone coronaria are coming into flower;
2) A new daff from Graham at Keira Bulbs - Narcissus to be named for David Adams KB-M-12Y-Y-1-03 (N. cordubensis x N. cyclamineus)
3) Crocus flavus
4) Hyacinthella nervosa
5) Allium chamaemoly
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 08, 2018, 12:13:14 AM
I'm quite happy to be wrong here but I've always had the pink form of Androsace lanuginosa as A. lanuginosa and the white form as A. l. var leichtlinii. Otto I could give you a plant of each right now but that darned ditch gets in the way of good trans-Tasman relations. :D

Fermi I'm wondering if the new daffodil from Keira is to be named for our Dave Adams from Christchurch, a great daffodil man and breeder and show-er of little forms? Or is it for another man altogether?

This coming Sunday is the third annual Snowdrop Study Day in NZ. It will be at a private address in Ashburton and all available places at the day are booked well in advance. It will be my first attendance. Unfortunately almost everyone's 'drops have come and gone quickly this year. The only one I have left is the late-flowering 'Straffan' so my hopes of getting 2 or 3 identified positively, are dashed. Still, it will be a great day with equally crazy people including old friends and new ones. The very talented JS will be providing cupcakes for afternoon tea, all decorated with icing sugar snowdrops, a great highlight apparently of the previous two events.
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on August 08, 2018, 05:05:56 AM
Hello Lesley , yes I think you are correct with Androsace lanuginosa var. leichtlinii being the white form of which I have large patches in my garden . 
Would love to come over for your Galanthus  Study Week End - but .Here too most Snowdrops are going over -last week in July is the prime time here .
Some are still hanging on like G.alpinus , transcaucasicus ,  true caucasicus  , fosteri , lagodechianus  and 'Straffan". I think I lost my krasnovii .
This year my favourites  were G.'John Gray ' , 'Mighty Atom' , 'Anglesey Abbey' ,  Trymlet' , 'Rosemary Burnham ' , and  as every year  old faithful 'S. Arnott' .
I counted over 80 different snowdrops -species and cultivars - in my garden . Unfortunately no new ones will come to Australia from now on -CYTES  etc .
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 08, 2018, 08:23:14 AM
But never say never Otto! Some people are still successfully importing bulbs through quarantine; my friend Greg Rucket has imported LARGE numbers of new hybrid Lachenalia (at great personal cost) and I'm sure you've seen some of them turning up for sale in Victoria there? So why not Galanthus? When it comes to the species I have ordered seed from Jelitto, Plant World seeds, rareplants.eu etc. and have germinated some. I agree it's much harder and more expensive, but as the old adage goes, where there's a will there's a way.
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 09, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
Yes it's still possible to import some things, mostly dormant bulbs but the bureaucracy and the financial costs involved are astronomical. We are so lucky here that one woman has been prepared to take up this task - at some considerable cost to her finances and also, unfortunately to her health, as the stresses of the processes have invaded her life - but with the result that we, the gardeners and snowdrop lovers are benefitting as she is bringing in cultivars of which we've only been able to dream in the past. She too is ruled by CITES but as she has been able to prove the provenance of home and nursery cultivars, gradually a selection is becoming available.

While the first two snowdrop days were largely attended by approximately local (South Island) growers, as the word has spread, more and more from around the rest of the country are taking part and available places for the day are snapped up very quickly. I know at least two North Islanders who are attending on this coming Sunday and it will be wonderful to see them again after many years. One thing has become obvious to me after listing just a very few crocuses this last autumn,  there is an insatiable hunger among NZ gardeners for little bulbs and the many other precious things that rock gardeners treasure. Years now, with no new plants allowed into the country, have created a demand that is impossible to satisfy. We want NEW plants, not just more hemerocallis, more alstroemerias, more and more of what we have already, but SPECIES that we've not seen before. Will this ever come about? I doubt it. Certainly not in my lifetime anyway.

Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 09, 2018, 11:34:13 AM
 ::)
Hi Lesley
Our David Adams is named after the David Adams who lives just near Christchurch. I will have to change the name as there is already a daffodil named David Adams. From recollection, the last time I caught up with David was in St Louis in 2016. We had an Italian dinner with him and his wife on our arrival in St Louis.
David Adams is well known in the daffodil world and he is into miniatures. I have been friends with him for a number of years. He has visited the Canberra daffodil show and our farm (as has Fermi). I suspect Fermi visited at the same time as David Adams.
David liked the flower when it first flowered. I have intended naming it after him as a consequence of his comments about the flower. It is a very nice flower.
Graham
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 10, 2018, 11:38:20 AM
Oh yes Graham, that's our Dave all right. Nice man and knows his daffs like no-one else in NZ I think. I hope you can sort a suitable name for the little daffodil. :D
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini bulb lover on August 12, 2018, 11:32:01 AM
I wish we had snowdrop days here in Australia!

Crocus reticulatus raised from Marcus Harvey 2012 seed catalogue. Seed collected Mt Falakro, Macedonia, Greece 1300m. When reading The World of Crocuses earlier this year I saw that Janis Ruksans had been given seeds and corms Marcus collected in this location which have since been identified as Crocus orphei. I thought maybe I had a new species in my collection! But my crocus have yellow throats; C. orphei does not. Still a beautiful crocus, whatever it is.
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on August 12, 2018, 02:33:03 PM
New Zealand members and those who have the good fortune to visit there, sing the praises of  Hokonui Alpines, run by the brother and sister team of  Peter and Louise Salmon. Their nursery is featured in an article in the New Zealand Gardener magazine - http://nzgardener.co.nz/ (http://nzgardener.co.nz/)

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Photos from FB by Doug Logan
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 13, 2018, 11:50:40 AM
Some late winter colour.

1. Romulea sabulosa
2. Romulea sabulosa again
3. Dionysia aretioides
4. Moraea macronyx
5. Crocus heufellianus
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on August 13, 2018, 08:02:21 PM
Here are some other flowers in our winter garden:
1 & 2) Pomaderris obcordata 'Mallee Princess'
3 & 4) Hakea species
5) Anemone coronaria from seed from Iraq
cheers
fermi
Those are words I never have to use-- flowers from my winter garden... Are the first several natives?
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: bibliofloris on August 14, 2018, 03:55:37 PM
That morea is gorgeous, Jamus!
Kelly
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 15, 2018, 02:41:14 AM
Thanks Kelly, yes I like it a lot. Strange how I can eschew yellow in some plants but then one comes along like this and it's suddenly very attractive to me! Also with auricula primulas, the clear, solid yellows are irresistible! Not that I can grow them..  :-[
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 15, 2018, 06:27:05 AM
Those are words I never have to use-- flowers from my winter garden... Are the first several natives?
Hi Cohan,
Yes, the Pomaderris and the Hakea are Australian native shrubs.
That morea is gorgeous, Jamus!
Kelly
One of my favourites, too! And the scent is reminiscent of lemon meringue pie! :D
Here are a few more from our garden:
1) Narcissus 'Viristar' is really making a splash now.
2) Bulbinella latifolia var doleritica from Silverhill Seeds
3) Iris 'George'
4) Tulipa orthopoda AGS Seedex 2003 coll Kazakhstan
5) Crocus flavus flavus AGS Sdx 2004
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 16, 2018, 11:07:29 AM
Hi
Some photos of what is flowering or about to flower in our gardens.
Graham
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini-daffs on August 16, 2018, 11:13:42 AM
Hi
A few more photos. We are growing a few reticulata camellias from seed so we can have a dedicated camellia garden in our front yard. They are coming along nicely and have just been repotted except for the pot where one plant is going to flower this year.
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 16, 2018, 12:25:32 PM
Yikes! Are there mice after the galanthus? They look a bit worried!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Jupiter on August 16, 2018, 11:40:06 PM
Funny Fermi, but that Arisarum is a bit of a thug! I am trying to think of a solution to its spread... Maybe a barrier? Or a big container?

Two flowers on Iris bucharica  :D
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on August 17, 2018, 02:30:09 PM

Here are a few more from our garden:

2) Bulbinella latifolia var doleritica from Silverhill Seeds

cheers
fermi
  Do you hve to keep this  well watered /in a damp area, as suggested by the PBS wiki fermi?
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 17, 2018, 02:54:47 PM
  Do you hve to keep this  well watered /in a damp area, as suggested by the PBS wiki fermi?
Hi Maggi,
I used to have it in a pot and treated it like most South African bulbs with a dry summer and watered from autumn till then.
I planted it out into a mixed bed with a lot of bulbs so it didn't get a heavy watering during summer but it probably wasn't as dry as it used to be.
I think the main problem with it is that the frost can kill the flower-spike (see pic now attached!).
We haven't have a very wet winter so far and this is the best it's ever been - as our American friends say "Go figure!"
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on August 19, 2018, 12:22:03 PM
Nippy in New Zealand!!
Winter is clearly not over in the  South Island  of NZ - these pix are of a heavy frost  on the night of 18th August -  via Lesley Cox.....

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Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 20, 2018, 10:18:34 AM
How did you manage to do that Maggi?
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on August 20, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
 ;D  I clicked on your photos to save them then reposted - simples!
You can post them here direct using the "inline full-size image  "  option from the choices  for attachments
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on August 20, 2018, 06:10:28 PM
Still frost for Lesley, and we had our first frost warning, though I don't think we got any on the acreage yet...
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on August 20, 2018, 06:16:38 PM
Hi Cohan,
Yes, the Pomaderris and the Hakea are Australian native shrubs.One of my favourites, too! And the scent is reminiscent of lemon meringue pie! :D
Here are a few more from our garden:
2) Bulbinella latifolia var doleritica from Silverhill Seeds
cheers
fermi

'Lemon Pie Bush'? The Bulbinella is lovely...
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on August 20, 2018, 06:17:47 PM
Some late winter colour.
1. Romulea sabulosa
2. Romulea sabulosa again

I do love that Romulea colour!
Title: Re: August 2018 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 29, 2018, 09:04:00 AM
Funny Fermi, but that Arisarum is a bit of a thug! I am trying to think of a solution to its spread... Maybe a barrier? Or a big container?
Hi Jamus,
it can be a thug but where we have it the conditions keep it in bounds. It's under a Chinese Elm which keeps the soil pretty dry and the root competition seems to be limiting the expansion of the Arisarum...for now at least! A container would be one way of stopping it taking over the garden.
Here are 3 Bulbinellas in flower now:
1) Bulbinella latifolia var doleritica
2) Bulbinella floribunda
3) Bulbinella eburnifolia
Two others (B. cauda-felis & B. triquetra) are yet to bloom
cheers
fermi
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