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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Blonde Ingrid on February 01, 2019, 12:42:13 PM
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Woke up expecting snow, not a sausage! Instead a small period of sunshine and what a display of Anne Wright's drops!
First Dryad Gold Sovereign, bulking like crazy, this is a beautiful snowdrop and a real eye-catcher. Already, developing more clumps.
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Dryad Gold Ribbon, again bulking well in the garden.
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Dryad Gold Bullion, a lovely yellow, which like Dryad Gold Sovereign has made additional pots in the Swaps & Spares Bunker.
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Dryad Clone 7, a pretty clone, I am testing for Anne in the Sub-Tropics of East Anglia!
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with best greetings from Europe ... ;)
two new Galanthus plicatus byzantinus cultivars ...
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Hi Hagen,
I'm so glad you're back..... I missed your contributions last year.
Tim DH
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Nothing special here but just nivalis en masse at Fullarton woods in Troon. A rather attractive fungus also.
Something new has happened to posting pictures since I last used it.
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TC ... I like this kind of white woods so much ....
orange between the best of green ...
GREEN TEAR / SCHORBUSER IRRLICHT / GREEN MILE
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Article by Anne Repnow in Gartenpraxis .....
https://www.gartenpraxis.de/Magazin/Archiv/Galanthus-Sorten-mit-Award-of-Garden-Merit,QUlEPTYwNTc3OTYmTUlEPTE2NzQ3Nw.html?UID=1679DE19B5DEE75F41DFB33407493538F2B7BC3A3AFB1B&fbclid=IwAR1KmynR2nqVPUTUEBgfNeDraxlENEzO0P9MOWo6v9pMi0oog9-TaeMEBbs (https://www.gartenpraxis.de/Magazin/Archiv/Galanthus-Sorten-mit-Award-of-Garden-Merit,QUlEPTYwNTc3OTYmTUlEPTE2NzQ3Nw.html?UID=1679DE19B5DEE75F41DFB33407493538F2B7BC3A3AFB1B&fbclid=IwAR1KmynR2nqVPUTUEBgfNeDraxlENEzO0P9MOWo6v9pMi0oog9-TaeMEBbs)
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good article of Anne :) :) :)
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two green G plicatus byzantinus: CLEMENS H. and JOE S.
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two duo's: PIECES OF EIGHT and GREEN SHADOW ...
both are showstopper
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good article of Anne :) :) :)
Thank you, Hagen, couldn't go far wrong there, could I? Though my own awards would go to a slightly different selection of cultivars :-)
Ian Christie's G. plicatus 'Castle Select' is multiplying really well
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Thank you, Hagen, couldn't go far wrong there, could I? Though my own awards would go to a slightly different selection of cultivars :-)
ich hätte den Hausfrieden auch nur gestört ... ;)
years ago I felt in love to this snowdrop ...
this love never ends ...:)
Thank you Ruby
for KILDARE
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Great result for the Scottish Rugby Team yesterday and their supporters performing well in the garden this morning!
First up, Golden Promise a stunning yellow from Ian Christie! Lovely shape and colour and one of my 'Great Eight' yellows.
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Second Bentley Green Tips, named by Ian after his favourite car manufacturer.
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Finally Swan Lake a delightful Scottish poculiform with lovely clear lines.
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The range of Scottish drops is amazing.
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three nice flowers ...
to bring a little bit of colors into the dirty white of the today's snow ...
SCHORBUSER IRRLICHT ... GREEN MILE ... DRYAD GOLD INGOT
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Wow - understatement of the year... seen together like that it is an impressively coloured group...
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I bought this one last year as Galanthus 'Jennifer Hewitt' but seeing it flowering for the first time I'm not sure it is. It doesn't seem to me to conform to the markings shown in Freda Cox's book. Any views?
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'Matt Bishop' in the sun today :-)
and 'Caryl Baron'
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I like the dainty marks on the outers of this G. lagodechianus.
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A seedling of G. ´Cowhouse Green´.
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Green tear looking particularly nice in the snow
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Maggi,
Thankyou for correcting the photo
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Maggi,
Thankyou for correcting the photo
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I like the dainty marks on the outers of this G. lagodechianus.
The anthers shine through the inners, giving them a pink-orange flush - very pretty!
Here is an unnamed very early G. nivalis - it has been in flower for several weeks
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Green tear looking particularly nice in the snow
The green ones look superb against a white background.
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Here is an unnamed very early G. nivalis - it has been in flower for several weeks
CORNWOOD was looking like yours and very early too ...
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Maggi,
Thankyou for correcting the photo
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Just a small group of good old S. Arnott.
(Bought from Shauney. Many thanks. :) )
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S. Arnott is such an excellent garden drop!
CORNWOOD was looking like yours and very early too ...
Thank you, Hagen, it really does look very similar!
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Sun shining today, before the windy weather arrives! A green tipped theme is the order of the day.
First Caryl Baron, the clawing of the outers is very distinctive of this drop.
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Snow Angel a very vigorous scharlockii. I have given away clumps of this variety and it still returns the same number the following year.
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Greenfinch an old and well loved favourite.
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Kildare another vigorous drop, which like many of the green-tipped drops seems to deliver intermittent markings on the outers.
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Betty Hansell, a delightfully quirky, green-tipped double.
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Nice green tipped snowdrops, I especially liked 'Greenfinch'. It's green seems darker than in the others. :)
Ingrid, you have posted many yellow snowdrops in January, is it that they are earlier, or do you have them in more sheltered place?
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Ingrid, you have posted many yellow snowdrops in January, is it that they are earlier, or do you have them in more sheltered place?
Hi Leena, I have only shown a small fraction of my yellows, there are plenty more to come. My climate is warmer and dryer than the rest of the UK, so many of my drops come early. I keep them in pots and in the garden, so it is a mix.
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PP-S-14-0398 :D
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Last week the Galanthus nivalis 'Spetchley Yellow' showed the tip of the nose in the garden under the snow.
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Great picture. It looks like a strong grower.
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Really beautiful, Marie-Rose. Not only the yellow snowdrop piercing through the snow, but the whole scenery of plants!
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A definite Andy Byfield theme to this morning's patrol.
First 'Andrea's Fault', a stunning dark green virescent. This variety is increasing very well (three clumps now), it is therefore approaching the standard of the best virescent. in my view, 'Morgana'. Performance in terms of vigour and garden worthiness are key for me, so this certainly makes my 'Great Eight' of virescents.
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Next, 'Tall, Dark & Handsome', a dark green gracilis with gorgeous markings.
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Next, continuing the dark green theme, 'Twister', another of Andy's. Named for it's cavorting leaves, reminiscent of H.R. Giger. It is a stunning drop with a lovely & shape and very vigorous!
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Finally, the amusingly named 'Ladyboy' I have no wish to investigate the origin of the name! :) It has lovely dark green inner markings.
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Hi Leena, I have only shown a small fraction of my yellows, there are plenty more to come.
I'm always looking forward to seeing pictures of snowdrops. :)
Marie-Rose, also I liked your picture.
How does 'Spetchley Yellow' compare to other yellow G.nivalis? The name was new to me.
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Hi There,
This little seedling amused me today.. The petals are so tightly ‘spooned’ it reminded me of the lip on a slipper orchid.
Tim DH
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Galanthus nivalis 'Anglesey Abbey'
Galanthus 'Snowfox'
Galanthus 'Primrose Warburg'
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More yellows this morning.
First up, an absolute belter and very rare, Rumenoglavi, a gorgeous nivalis from Joze Bavcon's University Gardens Ljubljana. A lovely shape and colour which is bulking well, several additional bulbs! A delightful addition to my yellow collection.
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Dryad Gold Nugget, still looking wonderful. I like the yellows with the pale olive inner marks.
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Spetchley Yellow, a gift from my chum Guy.
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Sandersii GP, sourced from Ian Christie, again, rapidly increasing and looking lovely in the early sunshine.
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Golden Fleece, lasting well and looking more vaguely yellow this year, Not in my top 15 yellows.
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four fine pure nivalis i-pocs from the continent ... ;)
PUMPOT
DUO
LADY PUTMAN
VALENTIN'S DAY
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a big gracilis with long claws and green shoulders too
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always one of our first virescens: GRÜNER FRÜHAUFSTEHER
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Last week the Galanthus nivalis 'Spetchley Yellow' showed the tip of the nose in the garden under the snow.
That is a wonderful photo! I didn't know this drop - very good looking in the snow
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A bit of warmth and sunshine today and some drops showed their best:
An annamed elwesii-find that has been done very well over the years
G. plicatus 'Golden Fleece'
G. 'Epiphany' - a little out of sync as usual here
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Your unnamed G. elwesii is a very remarkable one, Anne, with such nice corresponding marks at the base of the inners and outers as well!
And ´Golden Fleece´looks really breathtaking! I haven´t seen it so golden yet!
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Yes - I like the elfin face on the elwesii, too.
Re Golden Fleece: I think it needs the right soil and location. Seems to be happy with me ;)
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Golden Fleece is so special, and distinctive yellow! Beautiful. Unfortunately out of my price range. :(
There is also something about Rumenoglavi, very nice. :)
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Three vigorous varieties today!
First up Homersfield, one of the 'Face' drops which has clumped very well indeed.
Next, Margaret Biddulph, a lovely virescent, much overlooked when the great virescent drops are considered.
Finally, Priscilla Bacon, I love the outers on this drop, reminds me of Prawn Crackers.
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Galanthus nivalis in a southern country: they are taking their time, still opening.
This is the second year in my garden and I noticed they are increasing well, more flowers coming through this year.
I grow them in shade with lots of leaf mulch, and it seams to be working.
Only moles are a problem, they can dig the small bulbs too deep...I noticed in a place disturbed by mole's activity I lost some bulbs.
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Marie-Rose, also I liked your picture.
How does 'Spetchley Yellow' compare to other yellow G.nivalis? The name was new to me.
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it is good doer yet scarce, :)
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An interesting looking nivalis with green stripes to the tips and where most of the flowers point upwards. On close examination it looks like it has a normal sized pedicel as you can see it folded up in the spathe. I'm guessing that the spathe is slightly thicker than normal and the emerging bud hasn't the strength to split the side open so gets held upright!
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Reminds me a bit of 'Funny Justine', Shauney. Nice find!
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And Alexander looked out over the breadth of his domain and wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.
Anne Wright's Myths & Legends series...
First up, Dryad Demeter, even more stunning than I imagined! A lovely solid green across the inner and outers and a real eye-catcher which is increasing well. I agree with Anne, so much more oil paints than watercolours, redefines the limits of virescent drops.
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Next Dryad Artemis, lovely markings. This is a very long lasting flower, mine has been flowering for 4 weeks and is as good today as day one and also increasing.
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Dryad Venus, beautiful heart shaped markings, as befits the name.
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Luckily for Alexander, there have been more announced as undergoing trials in the Dryad Myths & Legends series, bring on Cerberus and Echo!
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We were given this pot of Galanthus fosteri and were told they were very small bulbs and unlikely to flower this year. Well they have and they are gorgeous and the perfume is intense.
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A marvellous assembly, shelagh! The more so as it´s blessed with scent, I have to check my small group for that!
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We were given this pot of Galanthus fosteri and were told they were very small bulbs and unlikely to flower this year. Well they have and they are gorgeous and the perfume is intense.
How absolutely delightful! A wonderful potful and such lovely flowers - something to cherish
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We were given this pot of Galanthus fosteri and were told they were very small bulbs and unlikely to flower this year. Well they have and they are gorgeous and the perfume is intense.
Neat little souls, aren't they?
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In storm and rain . . .
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Galanthus nivalis var. Scharlockii
Both bought last year in Nettetal and already now more than one flower :)
BW
Hannelore
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Galanthus plicatus 'Colossus'
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Wow - Colossus is really impressive! What a huge flower.
I wonder - can anyone tell me more about G. 'Long Wasp'? I like it very much - the colouring is unusual. There seems to be some gracilis in there. But I fail to see any resemblance to 'Wasp'...
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Quite a few mentions in the forum of 'Long Wasp' - mostly to comment on the large size of the flowers.
Introduced I think by North Green snowdrops.
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May I quote what Freda Cox states about 'Long Wasp' in her book ("A gardener's guide to Snowdrops")?
"Hybrid cultivar. Similar elongated flowers to G. 'Wasp' suspended from long pedicel with slender green ovary. Outer segments elongated, narrow, insect-like,slender claw, tapering to pointed apex. Inner segments tube-like, inverted green 'U' shaped mark above sinus whih can join second large green mark towards base. John Morley, North Green, Suffolk. (height) 25 cm."
No mention of parentage or unusual colouring .
I must add that the insect-like aspect of G. 'Wasp' is particularly visible when the flower is slightly-open, and less clear as the flower matures. It might be the same with 'Long Wasp'?
Maybe people from North Green could give further information?
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´Long Wasp´ would be a very desirable snowdrop if the flowers are actually large! What would You say regarding their size, Anne?
Stefan, ´Colossus´is a snowdrop which has not only large flowers, but also perfect proportions. Very nice!
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´Long Wasp´ would be a very desirable snowdrop if the flowers are actually large! What would You say regarding their size, Anne?
According to Josh Nelson in the forum - http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13820.msg350639#msg350639 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13820.msg350639#msg350639) 'Long Wasp' has flowers 39mm long, a size which is repeated by Tim Harberd in 2017 too.
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Galanthus 'Lady Elphinstone'
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Galanthus 'Blewburt Tart'
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According to Josh Nelson in the forum - http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13820.msg350639#msg350639 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13820.msg350639#msg350639) 'Long Wasp' has flowers 39mm long, a size which is repeated by Tim Harberd in 2017 too.
Thank You, Maggi! Looks like it´s actually my favourite type of snowdrop! :)
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First up, it is the turn of the 'Blobs' some drops with a green blob on the outer.
Lady Putman increasing slowly.
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Green of Hearts, bulking very well
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Trumps, always reliable.
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Finally some companions, a new un-named Hepatica, lovely while flower with red stamens. I am starting to get into these beauties with some vigour!
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Next Iris.r. Velvet Smile an Alan McMurtrie introduction, doing well.
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The fully double Hepaticas are one of the types of double flower I do find very pretty - but the single coloured singles, especially with contrast stamens, are surely my favourites. Such elegant little flowers.
Mind you, as Miss Molly says, who doesn't love a Small White ?!!
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the single coloured singles, especially with contrast stamens, are surely my favourites. Such elegant little flowers.
Mind you, as Miss Molly says, who doesn't love a Small White ?!!
I agree Maggs, this one is a stunner, has been long lasting and produced several flowers, I am delighted with it.
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Quite a few mentions in the forum of 'Long Wasp' - mostly to comment on the large size of the flowers.
Introduced I think by North Green snowdrops.
Thank you, Maggi, should have thought to search the forum, silly me...
Thank you everyone for your information. I got 'Long Wasp' from Rod Leeds and it is still fairly new. The flowers are normal sized at the moment (about 20 mm) - but then I think the bulb has to settle.
Here is 'Modern Art' just waking up
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The fully double Hepaticas are one of the types of double flower I do find very pretty - but the single coloured singles, especially with contrast stamens, are surely my favourites. Such elegant little flowers.
Mind you, as Miss Molly says, who doesn't love a Small White ?!!
The double forms of Hepatica nobilis ex Japan do look very sophisticated, but to my humble taste they shine off much better potted than planted out in the garden. Ingrid´s white one with red stamens looks far mor suitable for that purpose, though I suppose it´s a Japanese one, too?
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Glad to see Andy Byfield's post of new additions from Flete Walled Gardens yesterday. Three of Andy's today.
Delighted as always with the appearance of the best virescent in my view, Morgana! A wonderful colour & shape and a superb garden plant. I have several clumps of this around the garden and it grows extremely well.
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Next, 'Lemongrass' another lovely gracilis. The inner markings have a delightful variation of colour with a pale olive basal mark. This is increasing well and certainly sits in my 'Great Eight' of yellows.
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Next Zhooshi Starburst, lovely five petalled rizehensis, which is a great grower that needs to settle to produce the 5 petals.
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Some companions from Anne Wright:
Narcissus cyclamineus
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Narcissus Candlepower
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Some of my yellows from yesterday.
Firstly, a couple of lovely tiny little yellow nivalis from the greenhouse.....
Donaugold - more of an olive green than yellow
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Estonian Spirit 2009/CS4
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Two, more vibrant, yellows in the ground.....
Ronald MacKenzie
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Woodpeckers
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Hi Blonde Ingrid,
I missed the post you referred to from Andy Byfield.... Where was/is it?
Tim DH
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Andy Byfield's posts were on social media - shared to the SRGC page there - and he has given permission to post the photos here..... comments by Andy B.
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'Trumps' - so reliable, disease free and vigorous. A foundation snowdrop for all collections.
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'Fieldgate Sophie' - a newish introduction from Colin Mason's garden ... Short growing, large flowered. Nice. The left hand flower is, I guess, most typical.
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'Green Tear' - starting to go over
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'South Hayes' - still one of the best inverse poculiforms
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some more from Andy.....
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'Northern Lights' .... a Flete introduction and one of my favourite introductions - excuse the background! This is a x valentinei from the site that also gave 'Fanny'.
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Narcissu 'Bowles Early Sulphur' seems to like the hazels, and my appalling lack of weeding
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'Moortown' - possibly. This was Simon Savage's stock.
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an un-named "Byfield special"
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Next, 'Lemongrass' another lovely gracilis. The inner markings have a delightful variation of colour with a pale olive basal mark. This is increasing well and certainly sits in my 'Great Eight' of yellows.
Wow -- thats something special -- is that the only yellow gracilis ? Im quite smitten !!!
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more 'drops at Flete Walled Gardens planted with pale Eranthis to great effect.
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Andy jokingly gives this "Fridge Magnet" as a joke name!
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More of Andy's .....
"A new baby that I am trialling. I call it 'Fridge Magnet' (if they don't get names they somehow get neglected) and whilst its not an all-bells-and-whistles 'drop, it gives me more pleasure than most. This patch is just three years old, and it isthe most floriferous snowdrop I grow. The combination of short stem, neat foliage, largish flower and 'magnet-esque' pedicel all combine to produce a beautiful thing. Thoughts welcome!"
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Absolutely splendid photos of the planting of snowdrops with pale aconites, I love them! Thanks for posting.
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Saturday at Arboretum Kalmthout:
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Freddy v Houte’s woronowii ‘the baked truth’
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Starling
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Valentine’s day, even more beautiful in real life.
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Philippe Andre Meyer
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Rosemary Burnham
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High pressure brings out the flowers - click the link to read this week's Bulb Log from Ian Young
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019Feb131550057130BULB_LOG_0719.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019Feb131550057130BULB_LOG_0719.pdf)
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Caught in full flight in my new garden... G. nivalis 'Egret'.
I have read several comments (not on this forum) stating that it was somehow untidy, but this clone seems to be a lovely perfect pagoda to me! Love it!!!
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Nice Drops everyone!
I have nice drifts of 'normal' nivalis in full flower now, but every year someone starts to munch its way through them...
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Very irritating. I have so far not found out who it is, I suspect mice but saw a very pretty male pheasant strutting through the garden nibbling on crocus..
My humble start with named 'expensive' snowdrops does not merit a picture.. hope they don't get eaten and get a chance to settle in.
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The clumps do look to have been very congested, and declining in flower numbers, Bart .... maybe part of the problem was that they were too crowded and declined because of that?
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Ive had a lot of extremely precise damage to many drops this year and ive also seen it in gardens ive visited and also on some ebay purchases.
It looks insect damage -- extremely sharp almost laser cutting removal of sometimes just part of the emerging petal formation -- seems too precise and small for any animal, which i have a lot of passing through my garden. I live in fear of the badgers going postal !
But there must be a leaf cutter bee - or insect that is zipping around and neatly removing parts of the drop heads -- maybe this mild winter has increased the activity of some insect that doesnt normally bother getting out of bed ?
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Slugs and snails, if active, will eat snowdrops, particularly as they emerge through the ground so no climbing is required. This can lead to the tips of the flowers being removed. They can represent a serious threat to autumn-flowering snowdrops.
Pheasants like to pluck snowdrop flowers off but they don't eat them. Perhaps they are offended by anything flowering this early in the season and take it upon themselves to correct matters?
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Harry Pierik is a garden designer who also opens his own "hidden city garden" to visitors: www.tuinharrypierik.nl (http://www.tuinharrypierik.nl)
This is a 25 minute documentary on the garden from a few years ago ....
Garden of Eden - Snowdrops in The Hidden Citygarden - Harry Pierik - Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9NzKvc4RyU&fbclid=IwAR0QArY6PF8XfcAo5-gX5iGDPce9Y0nbpn0hBhdxLDTI6jAzqMHlFYZSnt0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9NzKvc4RyU&fbclid=IwAR0QArY6PF8XfcAo5-gX5iGDPce9Y0nbpn0hBhdxLDTI6jAzqMHlFYZSnt0)
The video has English subtitles :D
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In this Bulb Log Video Diary Supplement Ian Young looks at the flowers in mid-February, Galanthus, Crocus, Eranthis, Helleborus, etc.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdY5iOmjXKI&t=159s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdY5iOmjXKI&t=159s)
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Your garden is as lovely as varied, Maggi! My flat piece of lowland lacks natural charm, but at least we enjoyed snowdrops, crocus and eranthis opening in the warm sunshine today.
This seedling opened its flower today, too.
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Thank you, Mariette!
Nice seedling you have there - such fun to have variations from seed in any plants, I think.
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Lovely snowdrops everyone!
I keep going back to looking snowdrop views from Andy Byfield's garden, they are wonderful.
Especially I admire the picture of 'Green Tear', you can really see what it is like in a garden setting much better than in a picture of just a flower. It looks like it is really a distinctive snowdrop. :)
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The clumps do look to have been very congested, and declining in flower numbers, Bart .... maybe part of the problem was that they were too crowded and declined because of that?
Hi Maggi, I see what you are saying, but it's not that there are less flowers; the flowers that are there get eaten. I keep sptitting clumps and gradually the garden gets filled with what seems to be clones of ordinary nivalis and nivalis flore pleno. I do not seem to get much in the way of seedlings, despite the fact that I don't weed and I do get seedpods. There is no evidence of youngsters other that vegetative ones. But I digress:
Slugs and snails, if active, will eat snowdrops, particularly as they emerge through the ground so no climbing is required. This can lead to the tips of the flowers being removed. They can represent a serious threat to autumn-flowering snowdrops.
Pheasants like to pluck snowdrop flowers off but they don't eat them. Perhaps they are offended by anything flowering this early in the season and take it upon themselves to correct matters?
Alan, I guess you are right. It amazes me though that slugs might be active even when we still have frosty nights. Please see the picture for more detail of the damage;
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It really looks as if a slug is having a go... but they eat a lot, and fast!
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I'm still very new to the whole snowdrop craze and I wonder: are most 'specials' just lucky finds? I know some people do breed deliberately, like Anne and Hagen on this forum and probably others, but it seems to me most selections are 'found' in neglected gardens and estates. Is there also a North / South split (In Britain) perhaps in the likelihood of getting a good seed crop and self seeding populations? I live in Northern England.
Has any significant drop ever been found in an allotment, or a forgotten motorway verge?
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Argggh Maggi I am sorry they are all over the place again. PLEASE is there a way to sort this flipping out myself. Is there some machine code where I can see the pics orientation before posting???
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I have had serious slug problems, but strangely only on Tilebarn Jamie. I now resort to slug pellets, actually I never caught a slug at it, but the problem stopped when I deployed the poison.
If you have a slug problem, they probably have a taste for seedlings. >:(
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Galanthus 'Hill Poe'
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Thats a very cute picture stefan -- its like mother and child :)
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Thank you, deee! :)
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Argggh Maggi I am sorry they are all over the place again. PLEASE is there a way to sort this flipping out myself. Is there some machine code where I can see the pics orientation before posting???
Argggh Maggi I am sorry they are all over the place again. PLEASE is there a way to sort this flipping out myself. Is there some machine code where I can see the pics orientation before posting???
No worries, Bart - I've been offline but fixed those for you now.
More on the rotating picture "thing" here - http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=65.30 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=65.30)
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Pictures of named Galanthus varieties at The Garden House can be seen on Places to Visit thread, Reply 8 to 18. Plenty of other pics too on the thread as a whole.
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I'm still very new to the whole snowdrop craze and I wonder: are most 'specials' just lucky finds? I know some people do breed deliberately, like Anne and Hagen on this forum and probably others, but it seems to me most selections are 'found' in neglected gardens and estates. Is there also a North / South split (In Britain) perhaps in the likelihood of getting a good seed crop and self seeding populations? I live in Northern England.
Has any significant drop ever been found in an allotment, or a forgotten motorway verge?
Almost all snowdrop cultivars are finds. Whilst luck certainly plays a part, careful observation is also very important. And then care is required to build-up a stock to the point where it can be sold or otherwise distributed. Whilst some finds have taken place in gardens and estates (neglected or otherwise), many finds have occurred in places where diverse snowdrops have been brought together, for example in the gardens of people who collect snowdrops (and allow them to set seed).
I have recently moved from Cambridgeshire to Northumberland. I see vastly more Galanthus nivalis growing "wild" in verges and similar than I ever did in Cambridgeshire but in my part of Cambridgehsire there was also a significant naturalised population of Galanthus plicatus in churchyards and verges and I haven't yet found any Galanthus plicatus in Northumberland. Some nivalis populations are infertile and spread only by division; others set seed and will be more diverse. If there is a north/south divide then it is in numbers of galanthophiles with many more in the south than in the north.
I once found a beautiful virescent snowdrop growing by a lamppost, albeit in front of a garden with many other snowdrops. This was a time when virescents were much rarer than today and this one might have become significant had I succeeded in propagating it. But instead it suffered multiple misfortunes so there are still only a few bulbs in existence.
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Thanks for that Alan.
There are lots and lots of G. nivalis around my part of ryedale too and there is the odd clump of G. elwesii where topsoil has been dumped. I have been scanning for something different for a few years but as expected I didn’t see any odditiesso far. Fortunately the ‘normal’ ones are as nice as they are!
As far as the damage is concerned, some people suggest slugs and others mice. I think I have both. The cats have been put on a diet and I introduced a pond last autumn so I might get friendly toads to help with the slugs. They did eat my one flower on George Elwes though..
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A return to warmer climes from freezing Moscow and what changes in the garden. The Scottish drops are in full flower today, Three from Ian Christie and one from Cyril Lafong.
First up, Green Shadow, a lovely virescent from Ian Christie. This is a lovely drop with the green stripes on the outers grouping towards the centre. Stands out amongst the virescents.
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Eye Shadow another of Ian's specials with lovely inner markings.
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Grant Colvin, named after Ian's Grandson, this is wonderfully vigorous and long lasting.
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Annielle, one of my favourite Pocs, named for Cyril Lafong's wife.
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A lovely welcome back!
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Scottish 'drops doing well down there in the " tropics " Ingrid !
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Scottish 'drops doing well down there in the " tropics " Ingrid !
They are indeed Maggs, I have quite a collection of them now and they seem to be doing very well. The range is very impressive.
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Among the named Snowdrop varieties I saw on last Fridays visit to The Garden House (see pictures on the thread “Visit to The Garden House thread” were two with the oddest names-:
Imbolc and Chthonic
Can anyone tell me more about the names please?
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Imbolc is the "Celtic" name of Candlemas (February 2nd), Chthonic is the Greek word for "under the earth"
BW
Hannelore
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Two days ago I spotted the first Galanthus in flower in the garden. The snow is now melting quickly with double-digit temperatures.
A tiny treasure from Anne´s Dryad Gold series, 'Dryad Gold Nugget'.
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Imbolc is the "Celtic" name of Candlemas (February 2nd), Chthonic is the Greek word for "under the earth"
Many thanks for that Hannelore, you know what we "islanders" are like at languages ;D
A little more information on both thanks to G****e.
Imbolc: "A large flowered cultivar that has been split from Mighty Atom. Both plants given by E B Anderson to Primrose Warburg as Mighty Atom but she recognised that this one was wrongly named". (John Jearrard)
Chthonic: "Possibly the most distinct Snowdrop found in a population of Galanthus plicatus near Wells, Norfolk by Rosie...................... " (surname missing from article) from Brandywine Snowdrops 2017 Dormant List
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Last weekend I was lucky to swap ´Treasure Island´, really an improvement in size and shape regarding yellow snowdrops. For comparison ´Primrose Warburg´on the left.
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A question to the specialists here:
Among all snowdrops I bought and planted last year only "Trumps" has vanished. Does this sowdrop need special conditions, more or less dryness in summer or something else special?
It stood rather near a salvia nubicola, which has been watered sometimes last summer.
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Hannelore
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'Trumps' usually grows like a weed (i.e rapidly and without the need for special conditions). You were probably just unlucky.
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Some of mine
The last one is George Elwes
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Finally, got to the right thread
My little treats this February
George Elwes, but more appreciated by slugs
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Finally, got to the right thread
My little treats this February
George Elwes, but more appreciated by slugs
Would love to have some of your weeds.
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Last weekend I was lucky to swap ´Treasure Island´, really an improvement in size and shape regarding yellow snowdrops. For comparison ´Primrose Warburg´on the left.
Mariette, lucky you. :) Thank you for showing them compared to each other. It is often difficult to imagine how different snowdrops are compared to each other when you see them separately in pictures.
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Well, that´s just the kind of information I´m looking for, too. Also, ´Treasure Island´appears to grow well, there are already two youngsters in the pot.
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A lovely sunny morning for a patrol and a definite Andy Byfield theme!
First up, Whiter Than White, another of Andy's dark green series. A lovely colour and shape. Grows very well in the pot or ground, so a good do'er.
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Goatee Green Tip, one of the best green tips in my view, bulks well.
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Then some of the satellite clumps in the garden, all very good do'ers:
Morgana, best of the virescents.
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Andrea's Fault, multiple clumps now.
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Twister, lovely tall snowdrop, very long lasting flowers.
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The good news is that Andy will be trying to make more of his wonderful drops more widely available!
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A lovely sunny morning for a patrol and a definite Andy Byfield theme!
The good news is that Andy will be trying to make more of his wonderful drops more widely available!
That is good to hear.
Whiter Than White, another of Andy's dark green series. A lovely colour and shape. Grows very well in the pot or ground, so a good do'er.
That very "clean" dark green inner is yummy!
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That very "clean" dark green inner is yummy!
I agree Maggs, Andy is one of that small group of people who has a really good eye for a special snowdrop, not just minutely different from the others but special!
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The shapely flowers of ´Ketton´ with their dainty marks make this old variety unmistakable.
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The buds of ´Blonde Inge´appear yellowish next to the flowers of ´Anglesey Abbey´.
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It took ´Maidwell L ´11 years to build this small group, but now I like it together with its companion.
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This is Claud Biddulph, a new acquisition for me. I know nothing about it!
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Really love the rippling on this as yet unnamed nivalis
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Very nice, reminds me of a bridal gown.
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Hannelore
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My grandson Oskar picked some snowdrops!
Gerd
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A very handsome little chap who loves flowers - what a delight to have him in your family, Gerd!
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Shauney, very nice galanthus! ;D
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Galanthus Wasp
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Galanthus elwesii 'Paradise Giant'
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A very handsome little chap who loves flowers - what a delight to have him in your family, Gerd!
--- really, it is! Thank you Maggi!
Gerd
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Bit of a white theme this morning!
First up, Quatrefoil, bulking well and very large flowers.
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White Perfection, took some time to establish but is increasing well.
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Seraph, now several clumps and a firm favourite.
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EA Bowles, reliable and one of the classics.
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Lucy, another snowdrop in the 'weed' category, increases like fury for me, despite giving loads away.
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Lucy, another snowdrop in the 'weed' category, increases like fury for me, despite giving loads away.
I wished I lived a lot closer so I could come over to help you with the weeding ;D
cheers
fermi
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Very mild weather right now - in this video Ian Young is enjoying the warmth of the sun on his back as much as all the flowers as he walks around his Aberdeen garden. And yes, the dirty glasshouse windows have been mentioned to him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q36C0xZIGWk&t=7s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q36C0xZIGWk&t=7s)
Note Ian's very perceptive and insightful comment on galanthus - "there are large snowdrops and small snowdrops" - yup, I think he's got all the cogent info right there! ;D ;) :D
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Ingrid, I guess there are many around willing and happy to give you a hand with your weed;-)
By the way, is anyone of the forumists attending the 'Schneeglöckchentage' in Mannheim this weekend? I will be there on both days.
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Lovely sunshine through the mist here this morning!
Three from Anne Wright, originating from Taavi Tuulik.
First Estonian Spirit Group Kaina, a lovely ghostly yellow, good grower to boot! The group was found in abandoned gardens and woods in Estonia.
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Next, the double Muku, this increases very well.
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Finally, an unnamed plicatus with lovely long outers.
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By the way, is anyone of the forumists attending the 'Schneeglöckchentage' in Mannheim this weekend? I will be there on both days.
This forum has followed the development of Anne Repnow's efforts with the Mannheim event for some time - I'm willing to bet that the visitors there will be enjoying themselves, if previous photos are anything to go by!
I learn that Gerhard Raschun, Edgar Wills and Yanik Neff were there too.
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Lots of snowdrops out here. Just a few:
Galanthus 'Trumps'
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Galanthus 'Mighty Atom'
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Galanthus elwesii 'Natalie Garton'
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Lots going over but lovely to have some later ones. Fiona Mackenzie, Hugh Mackenzie, Fuzz and Dumpy Green.
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This forum has followed the development of Anne Repnow's efforts with the Mannheim event for some time - I'm willing to bet that the visitors there will be enjoying themselves, if previous photos are anything to go by!
I learn that Gerhard Raschun, Edgar Wills and Yanik Neef were there too.
.... and Rudi and Elke Weiss!
See here for some photos from Mannheim http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=16982.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=16982.0)
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This forum has followed the development of Anne Repnow's efforts with the Mannheim event for some time - I'm willing to bet that the visitors there will be enjoying themselves, if previous photos are anything to go by!
I learn that Gerhard Raschun, Edgar Wills and Yanik Neef were there too.
Ohh how did you find that out? :) (Neff is the corrected last name by the way. ;))
Yesterday in the garden:
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Scharlocki's from Ruben Billiet.
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Random double-headed G. elwesii from the garden center.
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So maybe I don't only like Galanthus.. A picture of Narcissus viridiflorus from Nijssentuin.
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Ohh how did you find that out? :) (Neff is the corrected last name by the way. ;))
I saw Yanik's picture on Facebook! And of course he is Mr Neff - I am the world's worst typist!
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Hello to all,
maybe I will also show some of my beautiful snowdrops. :) I hope to enrich the existing list of officially named ones with a few of my own.
'Forest Muse' - soon to be described. It has yellowish outer petals, which is well seen when it is still in buds. At this point it has greenish marking on inner petals. In time it opens the markings turn yellowish and soon after a short time it is opened they turn entirely yellow.
(A regular white one to compare mixed within.)
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A plant I like quite much. It is quite small and elegant. I rather won't be naming this one though.
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One of the finest inverse poculiformis I have found. Vigorous, very stable, tollerant, the biggest in size, it catches the eye fast.
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Some more:
ZDPR2 - an inverse poculiformis, one with subtle marking. Won't be naming it.
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A green leaved one, with so shiny leaves, that you can see sky reflection in them. That is why my wife and I thought to call it 'Heaven's Patch'. It also has delicate marking on the inner petals, and if the outer ones are not wide opened, it looks as if it was pure white. Wish, it was. :) One of my favourites.
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Another green leaved one, looking like a grass with tiny snowdrops in between. My wife loved the name 'Little Artist' and that is the one this will be getting.
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Yet another, but also the very first of my green leaved ones. Came from my very first searching, found in a sunset time. It was also long after it has its best days. I saw the leaves being shiny, than noticed the marking being weirdly double coloured - thought it is due to state of the plant. But I trusted it will be something nice and it turned out to be really fantastic. It is very strong plant, but also a slow grower. It's inner marking is always double coloured, although it might vary from year to year. I wish to name it 'Trust' and trust me, you will be waiting to see that double colour not believing it will appear until it will. :) To be described this year.
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Probably the smallestinverse poculiformis I found if it goes in the general plants size. It will be higher or rather it can be higher if it has less light and more humid place. Still it is really tiny in compare to many others I had found. It will receive a special name, that will be revealed, when it will be named, hopefully this year.
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My, you have some fine plants there, Chris. And I see nothing wrong with a bit of subtlety, as in ZDPR2.
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Chris, how lucky you are to have such wonderful finds! :)
'Forest Muse' is something special, and the bicolor one, but I like the second snowdrop, too. It has so good contrast between green inners and white outside petals.
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Heavens Patch is lovely -- whats the parentage ? Is it a woronowii hybrid
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Alan, thank you for your kind words. I will contact you through PM soon.
Leena, Wim Boens was the first one to notice 'Forest Muse' to be ecru coloured. I am happy, that I could bring it into cultivation. The name came as an idea of my wife and I think it fits the plant perfectly. If it goes to the one with green marking, it is not anything very new, but i liked the intense dark green on the inner petals.
Deee, that are all pure Galanthus nivalis what I am showing. The only hybrids of any other snowdrops I have, I received from others as known cultivars. I forgot to mention the species of shown plants. I will remember to write that in the future.
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You are fortunate, Chris, to have wife with an eye for plants that is as good as yours! Lucky man!
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Chris,
love those you and your wife have found! You guys do have a good eye for what's special...I'll add some pics of those you showed, growing in my garden.
Galanthus nivalis 'Trust', with its very special sinusmark
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2018
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2019
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Galanthus nivalis 'Forest Muse'
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And the tiny pterugiform, "name to be revealed" ;)
Galanthus nivalis '...' :P :P ;D
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Even though it's so tiny, the slugs seem to have found it yesterday >:( >:( >:(
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Galanthus nivalis ZDPR2
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And I think this is the one you called your finest pterugiform, no?
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... but I like the second snowdrop, too. It has so good contrast between green inners and white outside petals.
That´s what I think, too! My other favourites are those with the shiny green leaves, You´re fortunate to have discovered so many of them! Well done!
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Nice to see those growing with you, Wim- I am getting to quite like some of the inverse poculiforms (or i-pocs) as I see Chris calls them too. Especially the bigger ones.
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Thank you everyone for all your wonderful pictures.
Here are some of my yellow fraction.
'Dryad Gold Nugget'
The bulb planted outside is clearly yellow at the inner mark, the one in the greenhouse has a greenish yellow.
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'Elizabeth Harrison'
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'Mother Goose'
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'Midas'
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Maggi, I am a happy and lucky man indeed to have Greta to be my wife. We love searching through snowdrops, mineral hunting, simply spending all the time we have together. She is also an artists and maybe those are not snowdrops from any place except our dream world, but they are still nice to look at. :)
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(Artist: Greta Ciesielska)
Thank you Wim for adding some more photos of Greta's and my findings. You are keeper of our little treasures. :)
Mariette, I really hope to propagate and name 'Heaven's Patch' (with shiny leaves) indeed it is different from the other green-leaved ones. It is also a good grower, at least for me.
Carstens, I love your yellow ones, especially 'Midas' and 'Mother Goose', which are on my wishlist. They will have to wait for me to gain some space, since I would have real problem where to plant them now.
Here is some update of what is flowering in my garden.
All plants are pure Galanthus nivalis.
BGYL2 - is a tall plant with bright coloured. It is somewhere in between pure yellow and regular green and it is perfectly seen when there are regular snowdrops around. It really stands out a lot. If it would be worth naming, my wife thought of name 'Bonanza' for it. It is a slow grower.
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Dizzy - is just opening. It is really a weird plant with outer petals wave shaped.
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GRY2 - was growing nearby GRY1 = 'Forest Muse'. When I found it, it was still not flowering and it took two years for it to finally open a flower. I find it weirdly coloured, because I was expecting yellow marking as the whole plant is yellow. It seems that the most yellow it is in its lowest parts, while the marking on the inner petals is strongly green. It is very frail plant. I like it, but I don't know if it would be worth naming. We shall see when more flowers should appear how they would look like.
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'Kelpie' - that plant is my wife's finding. It is a diffused chimera. You don't know what you can expect from an offspring except, that it will be double coloured. Very interesting to look at. The name came from a mythical sea horse, that can change shape.
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'Little Artist' - here some more developed. I adore those tiny flowers!
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I wish I had a place where to put all the photos, so I could show them all at once and not use the Forums server too much. Here are some more from my garden, all pure G. nivalis.
TW1 - last year we managed to find a nice green one for the first time. Most probably there are many similar to his one and the one below, so I don't think it is worth naming.
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TW4 - a little monster, that my wife liked. It is really a weird one, but it also stands out a lot. If it deserves a name, my wife will have to think of something for that one.
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ZA1 - found in an old fruit garden, that naturalised and turned into a forest. I like its inner petals shape and marking. It looks like it was going to become an incomplete poculiformis.
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ZD16 - anthers are fused with the inner petals. It differs from year to year, but it seems to be always present and inheritable.
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I think, that this message will be the last one for now, although there are still many plants to be shown. For now those are the last five (G. nivalis):
ZDC1 - a chimera found by my wife, the very first one. Unfortunately, the whole, beautiful clump found last year is gone. I had no time to divide it in summer and now I pay the price. Gladly, this one is still alive and I will definitely take care of it, since it's amazing feature does propagate, although it is different with each offspring. also it may vary each year, at least a little.
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ZDZ4 - another finding of my wife, it has no inner petals... well this year one plant went rouge and tried to produce some. The petals are not properly formed. It was last year the same. Even if this particular one is not a beauty, it still could provide many seeds out of some a perfect one could germinate.
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ZDPR7 - is one of my favourites and second found inverse poculiformis at all. It has a tiny green leaking near the ovary, it is also the only one I found with this feature. It will be provided care and go to better conditions than mine. I really wouldn't want it to be gone. It is a slow grower.
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ZDPR17, 19, 16 - some nice group of inverse poculiformis, the middle one seems to slowly loose outer marking and come back to being normal.
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G. 'Rosemary Burnham' - a gift from a good friend. The plant seems to be happy of conditions I provided it and I am happy of how it presents and that it likes my garden. :)
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Chris - no worry about how many photos you post here! These pictures posted direct to the forum are safe here, and sometimes photos posted from elsewhere disappear over time from other places and leave only a gap here - that is very sad and frustrating - safer to have them here!
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If I can, than I will send one more set of photos than. I just lost everything I wrote in a moment ago... bad luck.
(All are G. nivalis)
BG6 and BG14 - forms with barely any marking on the inner petals. Two of my very first finds. I never knew I should look... ekhm... under the "skirt"... to learn if there is any marking on the inner side of the flower. All mine has green on the inside. I will now watch closer for absolutely pure white one.
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BGYL2 - in compare with other, regularly coloured ones.
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ZDCP6 - thought to be the perfect poculiformis, but one flower seems to regressed. I have many more perfect poculiformis and invomplete ones. The first type is till way long before flowering, which is interesting.
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ZDPR6 - is the very first inverse poculiformis found by my. I never even thought I could find anything like it, but I did and I find many form like that now. This one is a sentiment of mine and one of my small dreams come true. :)
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In a few days, there will be more to show, but the plants need to grow up. :)
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The ZDC1 - chimera is fascinating Chris. The must-missed John Finch had an agapanthus 'San Gabriel' (see picture) which did that half green-half yellow variegation which was very lovely but sadly unstable and a plant that I bought from the collection holder is not nearly so dramatic.
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A nice clump of poculiform nivalis found near the Danube
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ZDPR6 has lovely proportions, Chris! Who would ever have thought that this form might be found in Galanthus nivalis, too? You´re a lucky man to be able to ramble through such varied populations!
In my garden the green-marked pocs are now at their best.
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Carsten, what a good collection of yellows you have! :)
Chris, like Mariette my favourite of these is ZDPR6, but ZDPR16 is also really nice. And all finds!
Mariette, how very nice green poculiforms you have. Were these your own seed grown plants?
I like poculiforms best and the green in the outers gives them something extra.
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My first ones I got from a Belgian friend some 12 years ago, later additions were added. Today, they´re a mixed bunch of Belgian selections and seedlings which appeared in my garden.
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Mariette, this is also what I hope for in the future: to get self sown interesting seedlings. :)
You have had snowdrops for a longer time than I have, and very nice mother plants.