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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Guff on March 18, 2023, 06:16:18 PM
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Helleborus Thibetanus
There are 10+ flower buds between the two flower stalks. Can't wait to see them all open.
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How fast the weather changes here
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Video
https://youtu.be/gM-Bmxf1yCs
https://youtu.be/RrucTinRL98
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Helleborus orientalis: Self sown seedlings at the edge of
the meadow
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Guff
Is this a new seedling or the same plant that you have had flowering for sometime, just appears to be noticeably veined?
Jeff
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Jeff
Same plant as last year. Veining is the same. It's more white this year, last year it was pink. Probably because I was fertilizing with bat Guano and the Roots HPK last Fall.
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Guff, very nice H.thibetanus! :) It really likes your garden.
Rudi, how big clump and so many flowers. :)
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Agree that it will be a sight to behold when all buds have opened. Temperature can play a role in hellebore flower colour, however not sure of fertilisation would but feeding would promote growth and hecne bud formation.
The plant must now be 10+ years old?
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Leena, thanks.
Jeff, It could be 9 or 10 years since you gave me the seeds. It has flowered 4 years straight. My other plant flowered once(had 5 flowers), and this year it's just putting up a leaf again. Seedlings that germinated last Spring, some are above ground already.
I recall once or twice before they flowered, that the leaf was damaged, and it did put up another single leaf. I think they take longer, because they only put up one leaf per growing season. Young Hellebore hybrid seedlings here, will put up new leaves in the Spring and again in the Fall.
I'm going to be fertilizing thibetanus seedlings every couple of weeks, to get the single leaf as big as possible. Probably start out light, and add more strength. I feed and watered all Summer last year. They started to die back late August, early September.
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Guff,
The Helleborus thibetanus are lovely. I don't usually see such delicate colors in a Heleborus.
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A delicate temperamental species for sure.
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Jeff,
Good to hear from you! I hadn't seen any posts from you for a while.
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MarcR, thanks.
Helleborus Thibetanus
12 flowers.
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I am the green eyed monster, recall that you did have seedlings have any of these flowered?
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Have second Spring thibetanus seedling popping up, think they take 5 years or longer to flower. Haven't seen any popping up in my raised bed from last year.
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I wish thibetanus would grow for me. I've tried several times without success.
Here is a seedling from Marcia Meigs who was a member of Hellex, a group of people who exchanged seeds when hellebores were just starting to be popular.[attachimg=1]
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Diane, that is a very nice dark flower.
I think my climate is too harsh for H.thibetanus, though I haven't tried it. It is so beautiful! :)
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Helleborus multifidus is always the first one to start flowering, though I'm not sure if this is species or a hybrid, because it has never set seeds.
It is deciduous, like H.multifidus should be.
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My H. multifidus usually have the flower stems and remarkably different main foliage appearing at the same time. I usually get a few seeds but the flower stems succumb to fungus easily.
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It is unusual to have flowering and new growth occurring at the same time, botrytis is the usual fungus infection I see, regular spraying with a systemic fungicide as the flowering bracts are appearing can reduce the intensity of the infection. Growing environment, damp and poor air circulation are conducive conditions for botrytis. Some species and many hybridus are more prone to infection.
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I agree with Jeffnz that spraying a systemic fungicide is best; but Captan is much less expensive and often as effective.
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My H. multifidus usually have the flower stems and remarkably different main foliage appearing at the same time. I usually get a few seeds but the flower stems succumb to fungus easily.
I think H.multifidus which picture I showed earlier might be a hybrid, but this H.multifidus should be right, because it was grown from wild collected seeds.
This one sets seeds (unless frost damages them).
What Jeff wrote about botrytis made me wonder if these are now too dense, but they grow well and never had any trouble. Knock on wood!
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We do not have snow cover over winter, winter is cold and very wet, these conditions are ideal for botrytis.
Your green multifidus is the species, the earlier one has to be a hybrid that may involve the true species, never the less a good hellebore with outward facing flowers.
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Your green multifidus is the species, the earlier one has to be a hybrid that may involve the true species, never the less a good hellebore with outward facing flowers.
Thanks Jeff. :)
I like also the hybrid, and the flowers are good outward facing. It's leaves also die in the autumn, like in the green multifidus, but unfortunately it seems to be sterile.
It was grown from Swedish seed ex seeds.
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Unusual that it is sterile, does this apply to both open and hand pollinated flowers? I have only come across a few hybridus that are sterile, my plants of Betty
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Helleborus multifidus is always the first one to start flowering, though I'm not sure if this is species or a hybrid, because it has never set seeds.
It is deciduous, like H.multifidus should be.
They both look great Leena. The first one which may be a hybrid, resemble a bit my H. purpurascens, which also is the first one to flower here, erupting from the ground just the same.
The foliage follows much later and I actually like it that way.
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Few Helleborus flowers, with a particular plant from ex. H. 'Cherry Blossoms' that is very nice.
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H. purpurascens, already done by now.
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This one from a very robust specimen obtained from seeds; 5 years old looking like 10 :)
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Unusual that it is sterile, does this apply to both open and hand pollinated flowers?
I don't know how it would be if hand-pollinated, but open pollinated it doesn't set seeds.
The first one which may be a hybrid, resemble a bit my H. purpurascens, which also is the first one to flower here, erupting from the ground just the same.
The foliage follows much later and I actually like it that way.
Thanks Gabriela, the colour and the size of flowers is similar to H.purpurascens, but the shape is not, at least not now. The plants I have grown from your seeds flowered the first time this spring and they were early, though they also grow in an early spot. :)
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Thanks Gabriela, the colour and the size of flowers is similar to H.purpurascens, but the shape is not, at least not now. The plants I have grown from your seeds flowered the first time this spring and they were early, though they also grow in an early spot. :)
Yes, the flowers are different, just the behaviour is the same :) The garden location makes such a big difference in early spring. The ones who receive more sun can flower with more than 1 week in advance than another one I have on the side of the house, which remains shaded.
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I like the anemone, especially the yellow tips to the extended nectaries. Unfortunately this is not retained if the anemone is crossed with a similar coloured double.
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It is raining today, so here are some Helleborus pictures, new flowers this year. Many old (and new) ones still suffer from winter 2022, but it was nice to see new flowers. :)
The first ones are from seeds I got from Jeff.
The names are from what the crosses were.
The last pictures are from a really nice yellow which flowered now for the third time, and it survived the bad winter, so it is one more plus for it.
My favourite.
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These two were sister seedlings, and I especially like the white one, it looks sideways nicely.
The last one is also one of my favourites though flowers are quite small.
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These three plants are ex Cherry Blossom, seeds from Gabriela.
All are really nice, keepers, but I especially like the first one.
When we were taking photos of these, my husband asked why flowers of Helleborus look so down. I answered that they protect the productive parts that way, so rain wouldn't get there.
Looking around he said, but Anemone nemorosa looks up in good weather and closes it's flowers in bad. There was nothing I could reply to that. :)
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The first one flowers for the first time though it was sowed already in 2015. A really nice plant I think.
Then couple of 'Rose Qartz' plants.
And the last one is the best yellow which I already showed a close-up.
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Leena,
Lovely blooms! You are way ahead of me! The only Corydalis I have blooming are filistipes and solida.
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The pale pink is a real beauty.
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Thanks Marc and Jeff.
I like the pink one too, but it's flowers are quite heavy. It is different from all the other 'Berry Swirl' sister seedlings which are darker.
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These three plants are ex Cherry Blossom, seeds from Gabriela.
All are really nice, keepers, but I especially like the first one.
When we were taking photos of these, my husband asked why flowers of Helleborus look so down. I answered that they protect the productive parts that way, so rain wouldn't get there.
Looking around he said, but Anemone nemorosa looks up in good weather and closes it's flowers in bad. There was nothing I could reply to that. :)
Great seedlings Leena! The first one is very similar with the mother-plant and I like a lot the others! I don't have any doubles from it, but I gave away many seedlings so who knows maybe others enjoy some like yours :)
All the others are also lovely!