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Title: Unknown autumn flowering Allium from S Turkey?
Post by: Kees Jan on January 04, 2009, 05:08:16 PM
Hello,

I'm attaching two pics of an autumn flowering Allium, photographed in the SW of Hatay province in S Turkey, October 2008. I think the plants were about 40cm tall. Not a wildly exciting plant for the garden, but of botanical interest.

It seems to be similar to Allium paniculatum, but the flowering time (mid-October) would be very late for this species (normally may-august). It looks very similar to the picture of the related Allium dentiferum at http://www.marz-kreations.com/WildPlants/LILI/Allium_dentiferum.html I'm not sure if dentiferum grows as far east as Hatay province though, or what separates it from paniculatum.

Any suggestions or information would be much appreciated!

Kees Jan
Title: Re: Unknown autumn flowering Allium from S Turkey?
Post by: Oron Peri on January 05, 2009, 10:47:46 AM
Kees,

I would suggest more for the A. tardans group, I say group because this species has a wide distribution in
most of the E. Mediterranean Islands, Greece and Turkey.

To my knowledge there are four Allium Species that flower in the area in autumn:
A. tardans [distribution as above]
A. autumnale [Cyprus]
A. tardiflorum [Israel]
A. callimischon [Greece, Turkey]
the first three are very similar in appearance and hard to tell a part.

I must say that your Allium has more flowers than all the other I mentioned, was it a common characteristic of the others too?

They are all closely related to A. paniculatum [in bloom in early summer: June, July].
A. tardiflorum from Israel was treated in the past as a ssp. of A. paniculatum as well as A. dentiferum [you have mentioned].
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