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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: mark smyth on March 01, 2007, 12:02:10 AM
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I googled malyi 'Ballerina' and found last year's post. Is the purple streak variable from one year to the next?
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Crocus versicolor JMH 8215
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Last night and most of the day were just awful in Germany - windy & wet. Many crocus species did fall over :( But ~10.00AM this morning the sun suddenly break through for an hour and the little beauties did show their best...and I became wet and dirty knees creeping on the lawn to take the best possible shots.
Also a species appeared which I can't identify...Please investigate.
Noteable: the "Romance" with 12 petals...
C.versicolor, which I hope has no virus...
Lastly, I hope this is "E.P. Bowles" now, wasn't in flower last time...
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more pics :)
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Today I got an outburst of enthusiasm when looking into my garden this morning. 8) Overnight clouds and rain were gone, replaced by a very sunny late winter day. Temperatures peaked up to +14°C. All crocus opened their pedals widly, bees and flys appeared in masses helping me to polinate my crocuses. The best day since weeks of cold rain, mist and darkness!
Some more snapshots...
C.unknown - fully open today
C.biflorus - 1st time in flower, very tiny, just ~3cm in height
C.biflorus - top view
C.dalmaticus Petrovac - small bunch
C.versicolor - open
C.versicolor Picturatus
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C.biflorus tiny top view - now attached
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Armin tiny is lovely
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Thanks Mark.
Do you have an idea what could be the "unknown"?
Maybe a Tommy?
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The style looks right but you'll have to wait for Tony or Thomas to come online
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Some seedlings and Crocus malyi
Hans
from Austria
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Hans, like your vernus hybrid seedlings. Fist pic looks like "Pickwick".
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Hans - nice vernus seedlings.
Armin - I think your mystery crocus is C tommasinianus. It is great to see the flowers in a lawn - when my two girls are older I shall grow many of my bulbs this way. I don't know how Thomas keeps his flowers out of trouble :)
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A few crocus
1. Crocus biflorus tauri
2. Found this in the sand plunge, presumably moved by mice. I think it is Crocus biflorus weldenii possibly "Fairy"? Any thoughts?
3. Crocus x reticulatus "Janis Ruksans"
4. same, close
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Hi Diane - You have done very well to get so many flowers on that C biflorus taurii which is a notoriously shy flowering beast. Whats the secret ... and how about a shot of them wide open if the sun ever shines again!The volunteer from the sand is indeed C b weldenii 'Fairy'
Do you grow 'Ego' from same cross as Janis Ruksans? I find Ego more vigorous ... watch this space while I go off and dig out a pic :)
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Almost the final fling for crocus here.
Crocus malyi - seed raised and a CEH collection which looks like Marks 'Ballerina' with a purple mark at the tips
Crocus minimus Bavella - 2nd pic shows why it is so coveted.
Crocus x reticulatus 'Ego'
Crocus biflorus ?pulchricolor - tiny first flower from seed. That pink slug behind it is my finger.
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I could not post these pics with the healthy crocus in the last post!
JoF noted the curious outer markings on C Wandering Minstrel in February. Here is a pic of that plant (which some might suspect of carrying virus) alongside a clearly virussed C imperati :'(
I have also included pictures of the leaves. The streaky imperati leaves are clearly virussed while the Wandering Minstrel leaves are clean as a whistle.
Hope this info helps, one of the challenges of maintaining a collection of plants like my crocuses is keeping the stock in good health. I remove suspect plants quickly. The imperati were in a pot where other apparently healthy plants reside. I tipped the lot out and removed the sick ones.
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Tony, great pics. Like especially your form of C.minimus Bavella. Lovely tiny biflorus...
C.unknown: Any idea/proposal which form of tommasianus it could be?
Virus infection: I'll keep an eye on the leaves of my C.versicolor. I'll verify later this week.
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Armin, your tommie looks like "Lilac Beauty", but not exactly. I think it's a seedling!
Here the few crocus that survived the heavy rainfalls of the last two weeks:
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And some single clumps.
Crocus aerius - true form
C. malyi
C. chrysanthus "Blue Peter"
C. reticulatus x angustifolius "Early Gold"
C. reticulatus x angustifolius "Alionka"
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Great show Thomas - unbelievable how they do survive all that bad weather isn't it ??
But then - if 1 million fall over by wind and rain, you've still got another two million left upright enjoying the sun whenever it shows... ;D
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Really unbelievable, Luc!
I've noticed, that some are very weather resistant, see the ones in my last posting,
which stood strong for more than one week!
My Crocus angustifolius pure yellow was damaged after only one day of rain :'(
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It is only by growing such a large range outside that one can find which are the strongest growing and most weather resistant. Appearances can be deceptive, can they not?
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Here are two grown from SRGC and flowering for the first time. Crocus rujanensis and Crocus heuffelianus.
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Thomas, can you identify this crocus please. Is it Crocus vernus Remembrance?
Your meadow is simple beautiful in spite of rain!
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Crocus heuffelianus
Crocus heuffelianus `Albus`
Crocus vitellinus
Crocus malyi
Crocus vernus ssp.vernus `Michael`s Purple`
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a seedling from Crocus candidus, possibly a cross
with Crocus olivieri, two pics
a other wonderful cross between Crocus vernus ssp.vernus
and Crocus tommasinianus, the name is `Fantasie`, two pics
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The weather here this evening is really horrible, Dirk, I cannot tell you how your Crocus pix are cheering me up! You have many fine plants and some super varieties.
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Super seedling from candidus Dirk. I thiink you may be right about the parentage. Lets hope it has hybrid vigour.
I grow a plant similar to Fantasie, same cross. Mine has Creamy outer petals. Thanks Maggi!
Has anyone heard of Crocus sieberi 'Bowles Blue'? I have an enquiry from a friend who has grown it for years but wants to know its origins .... and if the name is valid.
Maggi - its grim down here too. Even I find myself drooling over some of these great plants that we are shown.
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from Tony;I grow a plant similar to Fantasie, same cross. Mine has reamy outer petals.
Tony, what does "reamy" mean? I have never heard this term.
Ian says you mistyped... C-reamy ! If he's correct I'll feel a real twit!
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Can I be picky? :-\ when saving images for all the forums I would like to see the full name for the image to be attached. It saves scrolling up and down to check image with text. Sorry.
I would like to try lots of Crocus in the open but I truly detest our winter weather than can leave them destroyed before a photo was taken eg my group of vernus ex former Yugoslavia. One day for perfect shots and wont see them again until next year. The same was for the skinny virused looking vernus
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Great pix everyone. The rain has done for many of mine outside, but just a couple taken on Saturady when the sun shone.
Crocus tommy Whitewell Purple
Crocus sieberi tricolor
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Mark is the skinny vernus pictured the one you refer to? I've raised this form from seed several times (twice SRGC labelled reticulatus!!) and it just is skinny! (Like some of its wild ancestors) If it is also virussed I am sorry. What are the leaves like?
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you will be correct. Now that it is over it will be difficult to spot it amonth the leaves of tommie var roseus. I'll look tomorrow or if it wasnt lashing I'd look now
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skinny vernus pictured
which? where? what about it?
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have you got the wrong specs on? It's just over the page
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I often DO have the wrong specs on, as Mark knows, but this time, I'm innocent! I checked all three pages but when I first saw Mark's post with the skinny vernus, there was only text about him being picky about file names, honest Gov! Did you edit the post to add the pic after, Mark, or is there more wrong with me than just the specs?? :P
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Re: Crocus March 2007
« Reply #29 on: Today at 09:11:02 PM »Mark Smyth
Last Edit: Today at 09:14:35 PM by mark smyth »
AHA! you did make a change! This is a conspiracy to confuse the confused, so obviously unsporting!
Anyway: now I've found the blasted thing, it only looks skinny to me!
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Franz, your Crocus is NOT Remembrance, which should have large, rounded petals with
silvery gloss and brighter colour. I'm sure yours is "Whitwell Purple"!
This means, that Dave M's plant ISNT "Whitwell Purple" - this looks like "Barr's Purple"
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Thomas, you surprise me, I was seeing Franz' crocus as a vernus. when I look again I see they are smaller than I thought, but with quite fat flowers, so are they really Tommies, then? They have a deep purple tube, I see.
Also, I notice that you call C. tomm. as 'Whitwell Purple' when we in the UK, at least, have the name as 'Whitewell Purple'.... with an "e" in the middle. I think the Plant Finder shows the extra "e".
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Maggi, you're right: The correct name is WhitEwell Purple,
I've checked the KVAB registration list, sorry my fault.
This plant is sold as Crocus tommasinianus Whitewell Purple, although
there are obviously some vernus genes in it - see the broad leaves,
the dark tube and, compared to the other Tommies, the big flowers.
The correct name should be:
Crocus tommasinianus x vernus Whitewell Purple.
Compare the size of it on this photo with vernus Remembrance:
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Thank you, Thomas! It is good to see the two together. I guessed this was the scale of Franz' crocus, by the leaves. I see now the silvery sheen you mentioned for Remembrance, also. I am feeling quite pleased that I noticed the purple tube and thought this showed vernus blood.... I hope you think I am turning into a better croconut from watching the forum ?!! ;D
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Maggi - together we're strong!
And nobody's perfect - not even me!
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Armin, your tommie looks like "Lilac Beauty", but not exactly. I think it's a seedling!
Here the few crocus that survived the heavy rainfalls of the last two weeks:
Thomas, many thanks. I thought the same but I can't remember ever having puchased them - nor missing any other cultivar. But they are nice.
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Here's my crocus habitat...can't compare to Thomas ones yet - but my one has still much room for improvement! ;D
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You are progressing well, Armin. The meadows of Franz and Thomas are an inspiration are they not?
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Thank you, Maggi and Thomas! As I both crocus saw was clear everything.
It is wonderful , that we have the forum with outstanding experts. It was never so easy for a plant lover too receive a correct information. I would like to thank also the administrator of the forum for his perfect work.
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Whilst we have got our experts at hand can you put a name to this Crocus which has just flowered from exchange seed under the name Crocus sp Slovenia. I think it is rather lovely and I'm sure I have seen something very similar posted but can't find it or remember what it was.
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That looks like Crocus (vernus) heuffelianus Franz? (Sorry, I mean John) Here is Crocus heuffelianus 'Dark Eyes'. The second pic, taken without flash, is more its true colour. I think it is fabulous.
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Anthony, I think you mean Jof (John Forrest) not Franz, do you not?
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Jof - your lovely seedling is indeed C vernus vernus, the form with the dark v at the tips used to be called C heuffelianus or C scepusiensis (depending on whether there are hairs in the throat of the flower or not! Scepusiensis has the hairs.) Yours is a very short tubed form, I guess the mild bright weather has rushed it into flower - nice! Crocus vernus has many synonyms, the local variations were once all given specific names. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have individual names for the many variants - what heresy!
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Michty me Maggi, maybe I should have another nickname: Señior Moment? ::)
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You are progressing well, Armin. The meadows of Franz and Thomas are an inspiration are they not?
Maggi, of course they are! Very beautiful and exciting.
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Thomas do you get people stopping to view your collection? Franz is your garden visible to the public?
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Yes Mark - as I live beneath the local park, I often have people
looking above the fence when the sun is shining. But when
the flowers are closed nobody realises them ???
Franz, today I had an interesting discussion with a beautiful
young lady that made me unsure about my tommie ID's!
We'll try to clarify the problem and tell you the result later!
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Anthony, you are forgiven. I have the same affliction from time to time.
Tony, thanks for the ID and I shall go and check whether it has a hairy throat but will name it C.vernus vernus I think.
Just been to check and it has got a hairy throat, if that means a little white 'FRILL' at the base.
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A few late-comers still looking good.
Crocus vernus vernus 'National Park' - A Ruksans selection, very dark flowers lit up a bit by the backlight from late sun
Crocus vernus vernus - form collected as seed in the Val d'Incles, Andorra. (By me in 1996BC ;))
Crocus vernus vernus - 'Napolitanus' was the name appended when the seed was sown in 1992. A small but very attractive form with slightly skinny flowers (Mark!)
Crocus minimus - late flowering form. Appeared in flower yesterday, about 10 days behind the trade form
Crocus angustifolius 'Bronze Form' - the flower with the darker blotch is just 'younger' than the more feathered form which an earlier pic shows with the same intensity of colour as the flower opened.
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Here is another view of Crocus rujanensis grown from SRGC seed (2002 catalogue no. 84) and what came up in a pot labelled Crocus gararicus herbertii (again, SRGC seed 2002 cat. no. 39).
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Anthony, was it wild collected seed of gargaricus?
It grows together with biflorus ssp pulchricolor on
Ulu Dag in Turkey!
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Mark, you ask if my garden is visible to the public. Sometimes! There are nearly no private gardens witch are visible to the public in Austria.
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Time will tell if it is the only rogue in the pot?
It was in the domestic part of the catalogue, so would have been home grown seed Thomas. It may be just a stray that has got into the batch?Anthony, was it wild collected seed of gargaricus?
It grows together with biflorus ssp pulchricolor on
Ulu Dag in Turkey!
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This, like Tony G, could be the last Crocus from me. They are going over fast and I didnt get the brush out once. Murphy says every day I work will be good and all days off it will rain
No source on this pot of white tommies recently found tucked away out of sight. Not quite white but much whiter than my other 'white'
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Here are a few more to keep people happy. Tony just showed angustifolius bronze form. Here it is quite wide open on one of my sneaky 10 minute dashes home
I'm still looking for a positive ID for this bought as C. olivier
Is this Crocus vernus? Bought under the old name/syn neapolitanus
and for the time being - I have a report to write - a named vernus cultivar 'Polje' maybe ...
ps A while back I said I said my favourite Crocus are white ones. I'll take that back and add orange
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Mark, lovely pix. I think your tommie albus might be a Vernus.
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nothing really surprises me anymore
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I had similar thoughts about Marks C tommasinianus albus. Perhaps hybrid blood is the answer. The crosses between vernus and tommasinianus do sometimes have 'stripes' of another colour in them / on the outer petals.
The C olivieri appears to have the characteristic wide leaves .... and not very many of them.
The C vernus is indeed C vernus from what we can see - shape, colour, flowering later than most. The plant that I grow under that pseudonym (synonym) is very different. See the post with 'vernus 22-92' in it.
The narrower petalled dark form is nice, similar to one I grow received as 'ex Montenegro'. The name you give yours suggests similar origins perhaps?
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Thomas, wow! Your sea of crocus sure is making some nice clumps. Do you dig and fill in any spots that lack? I see some singles in spots, or are those self sowed seedlings?
Pictures like yours and Franz make me want to start on mine this fall. I just might, but I fear I won't have enough, until Fall 08.
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the white tommies are from Pottertons and the purple vernus is 'Krasno Polje'
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You still not at work Mark? ;D
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At work, yes. Working, no. Sunny morning again
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Some more impressions from this weeks crocus lawn:
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It's vernus time now!
Generally I don't like these fat vernus-monsters, but there's one
really beautiful with the darkest colour I've ever seen on
any Crocus : "Negro Boy". First photo compares the colour with
the "dark" Tommi "Whitewell Purple"
The white one is a small, pure white seedling found in my lawn.
Hope it will remain that small next year:
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More great pictures Thomas !
Does this ball stay there until April ???? ;D
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No Luc. The ball is used every day for Chris' football
skillfulness games between the crocus clumps ;D
Last post for today is a plant, received as Crocus kosaninii
ex crocus group seed. But I think it's a form of sieberi. Any
suggestions which ssp?
The yellow one is from a Swedish nursery:
Crocus candidus subflavus "Little Tiger"
It's a selected seedling of candidus subflavus
which is in fact C. olivieri:
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HI Thomas!
The imposter sieberi looks to be the same pale shade as C rujanensis which originates from the same part of the world. As you know some people think that C rujanensis is no more than a regional variant of C sieberi.
Your lawn is just superb - words are not enough!
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Thomas, Wish I could swap my very yellow patchy lawn used by the pooch for a toilet for your beautiful Crocus filled one.
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Some photos of Crocus vernus which grow near my garden in the Austrian Alps. The photos are taken today.
Hans
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they really are lovely. How far do you drive to see plants and views like that?
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here is a seedling tommie in a garden I was in today
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Hi Mark,
I have to drive 7 km to see that. My cottage, where I live at the weekends, is a little nearer to the mountains (Höllengebirge). But I live in Linz, this town is 80 km far away.
Hans
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Great shots of lovely plants Hans ! Always a bonus to see them in the wild !
Very special colour that Tommy you found Mark, did the owner let you dig it up ???? ;D
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Wonderful crocus, Hans. Oh, to live in such surroundings........
Some of my last from the alpine house
C. vernus heuffelianus
C. vernus vernus
C veluchensis
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I love the C vernus vernus Dave ! Beautiful different blues !
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Thanks Luc. But, just looking back at previous posts in this thread, I think my two vernus labels have been reversed! No doubt the experts will correct me......
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possibly so.
I would love to be able to drive/walk the short distance of 7km/5 miles to see them
I think this has been shown before. 'Brian Duncan'
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Hans thanks for sharing your beautiful scenery and plants in the wild
Here are a couple of mine from the garden and the last one looking for identification
Crocus Vernus Uklin Strain
Crocus Vernus scepusiensis
and Crocus looking for a name
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Crocus napolitanus, 3 pics
meadow with Crocus napolitanus and with my daughter Marianne
in Drebach, Sachsen, Germany
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How nice, Dirk. Super to see such a spread of a block of colour.
You have a beautiful daughter. I believe she is deep in thought......"Hmmm, a few yellow ones might be nice?"
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Wild crocus meadows. I really like it. Thanks Hans & Dirk for those beautiful impressions!
3 pix from my tiny vernus collection
C.heuffelianus
C.vernus vernus
C.vernus albiflorus (still buds)
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What a fantastic meadow Dirk.
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Dirk, I love the way your daughter looks so cute and lovely!
Look what my little devil does:
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Ian, your unknown Crocus looks like another form of vernus ssp vernus!
Today I've seen thousands of them mixed with ssp albiflorus, heuffelianus
and tommasinianus together with Leucojum vernum in a botanical garden:
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This is the first time I have seen lots of Leucojum in a lawn like this, lovely!
Looking back to "your little devil", Thomas, don't you think Celine is a little young for solo flying lessons?
And isn't it more usual to have an airplane? Or at least a parachute?
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Maggi, it might be more usual to use airplane and parachute,
but as you see: She doesn't need it! 8)
I've heard, some devils have wings - or were that angels ???
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I hope she aims properly and hits grass and not patches of Crocus. I remember doing that when I was small and playing at the local park. No swings anymore due to continued vandalism
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Thanks for the compliments,
here view pics from my garden
Crocus vernus ssp.vernus, Oradea, Romania 2 x
Crocus scardicus
Crocus minimus Bavella, 2 x
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Udo what an amazing Crocus that minimus Bavella is and I envy your Scardicus
Thomas thanks for the ID and your daughter must be well trained to miss Dad's flowers mine always managed it OK but it is the grandchildren you have to watch - little darlings ::) Just you wait
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I agree, the colour contrast from outside to inside petals of C. minimus Bavella is quite extraordinary. Such a dark, velvety purple, almost to black! Is the name Bavella from the place of origin, Dirk? Do you know yet whether it comes true from seed?
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Hopefully if I go out and encourage my C. minimus Bavella with a paintbrush tomorrow I can get seed pods like these! Fantastic seed set on the autumn taxa and signs are good for the spring ones too. Should be a good list this year!
Great pics as always - thanks guys!
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Is the name Bavella from the place of origin, Dirk? Do you know yet whether it comes true from seed?
I should know by now where to find the answer to questions like that:
Tony's Crocus pages!
http://www.thealpinehouse.fsnet.co.uk/crocus%20pages/minimus.htm
"Crocus minimus ‘Bavella’ – this dark flowered form of Crocus minimus was introduced into cultivation by Alan Edwards who discovered it on the Col de Bavella in Corsica. A few corms were collected and fortunately the plant breeds true from seed which is freely produced in cultivation. A full discussion of this plant and the needs of Crocus minimus is to be found in the Quarterly Bulletin of The Alpine Garden Society Vol 68, No 2, pp241-242."
There, how's that for info?
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photos not visible here either - only the little red crosses ... :'(
Help !!!!
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Is the name Bavella from the place of origin, Dirk? Do you know yet whether it comes true from seed?
Hi ,
I have visit the "Col de Bavella" on Corse several times - so far I see was there only Cr. corsicus - no Cr. minimus .
The most places that I saw on Corse grows only Cr. corsicus -exept on one place in the south ( Mt.de Cagna ) there was a C.minimus .
Greetings
Hans
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Hans you make an interesting point. The distiction between C minimus and C corsicus is a fine one. It is possible that future research will redefine these two. To my eye the flowers of C minimus Bavella have a 'characteristic minimus shape'. The flower of C corsicus are sublty different but my observations are based only on cultivated plants. Your observations in the mountains are very interesting ..... do you have pictures?
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Tony ,
I will not say this location is wrong - but maybe is something happens with hybridisation or anything .
All the C. corsicus they I have seen are much bigger than C. minimus - I know C. corsicus from 4 or 5 locations -from one or two I have send Thomas some seeds .
Sorry - but I have not any pictures from this plants .
I have also visit Sardinia but not in the rigth time for Crocus .
Greetings
Hans
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I do not have a crocus collection, just a few odds and ends....though after all these great pics, I think I will be searching this summer for some that I "gotta have."
Here are a couple in my yard, not sure names....squirrels are great at moving both the bulbs and the tags. Our Crocus, here in Mid Michigan, USA, are just starting to bloom.
Jim
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Hello Maggi, the seed from my Crocus minimus `Bavella` is from
seed-exchange in the Crocus Croup. First flowers after two years,
this form is a good grower.
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Two years from seed, Dirk, that is nice and fast for such a pretty flower. Good that not everything we grow takes three years to germinate and fourteen to flower, isn't it? ;D
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I finally sorted out my picture-problem and now I'm able to see all the photos!!!
Jim, your unknown Crocus looks like chrysanthus "Advance" - do you
have a photo of the open flower???
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Hi Thomas ,
Now I have found today your true ID -for all who like to see who Thomas find his Crocus looks here :
http://www.huberbuam.de/
In short time will also come a movie about Thomas and his activty in the mountains .
Greetings
Hans :o
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Now I have found today your true ID -for all who like to see who Thomas find his Crocus looks here :
http://www.huberbuam.de/
I short time will also come a movie about Thomas and his activty in the mountains
Hans, this is very funny, much better than my soup!
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I knew growing Crocus was addictive but I didn't realise it was dangerous enough to wear a helmet and to assume fierce facial expressions >:(
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For all who not speaking "Bavarian" slang : Buam = Boys
Maggi - did you know it ?
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Quite, David, a revelation to me too, though I cheered up when I saw that is also very warm work for these boys....... apparently............
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Maggi - did you know it ?
No, Hans, I did not know this. :-\
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Now I understand this picture where his daugther fly so high....
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Now I understand this picture where his daugther fly so high....
Yes, Hans, I have said it before "there is often a clue" !!! [attach=1]
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Hans - now it's said: You've found my alter ego! ;D
Don't tell my wife in Neustadt about wife and kids in Berchtesgarden!!!
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This has appeared in the last few days in a pot without a label. Hopefully someone can ID it. The colour is exactly right
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Lovely one Mark but I have no idea
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After all this eye candy I would like to show some more eye candy in the form of Crocus ::)
I took pictures of what I could when I was back in Sweden.
I will start to show some from the botanical garden in Lund but I think they ordinary dutch ones and not special ones like in Gothenbur.
Then agin I do not think the ones in Gothenburg i growed in the lawn. 8)
I took the pics at several oportunities and the last one was almost at dusk so not so great light.
First overview of bulbs in the lawn then tommies amongst the rocks two pics and the tommie close up then mixed ones.
I am not sure if the prince Claus is that and I am curious if anyone know the green and white one in the same picture.
Joakim
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More crucus from our summer house 100 km north so it is a bit behind and only the one that have been recently planted where up.
The one that has been there for a long time where still in bud if even.
The newer ones are planted higher so that might influence.
Does bulbs fully grown ones also "move" to correct depth?
Here I am unsure of some but think I have a good guess please let me know If I am right or wrong
Start with tommies anyone know what sort if any?
Gipsy girl or somthing like that in name?
Tricolor?
Then others on different place also tricolor? Top and side view
White one I really like the clean in this one no other colour.
Dark one may not that dark as the picture but darker than the rest
White with purpur anyone know the name?
Finally a striped one
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Then some bulbs from my parents many of these are pots that I/we have had indoors and then put out.
To be truth full I bought them at the maret for great price and then "gave"/lend them to the girls at work and when the crocus where done (losing there flowers) they went to the garden. With that and others that have seeded we have some nice ones I would say even if may are of common background, but so am I so I am happy with them.
The crocus are lining the front Yard isle and first two pics of that I was not able to get all of the wright side as the bike shed blocked me.
Then a striped one top and side any suggestion of name is wellcome.
A Darker striped one top and side any suggestion of name is wellcome.
A Purpur with white edge top and side any suggestion of name is wellcome.
Bayby blue and baby yellow together at the neighbour nice ones but takes a time to get used to I would not have them together like that in one lump.
A dark yellow at the same neighbour at the end.
That will be the end for me unless my mother sends some pics of how it looks when the old ones in the summerhouse is blooming.
Joakim
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Hello Joakim!
There are only a few names I can give you. Most of your big vernus flowers
seem to be of hybrid origin and unknown to me!
Gipsy Girl looks like Dorothy
vernus dark looks like Flower Record
Tricolor is correct
Lund6 = Pickwick
Baby Blue = maybe Blue Pearl
Baby Yellow = maybe Cream Beauty
Mark I've never seen a Crocus like yours, sorry, no suggestion ???
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Thanks Thomas
I suspected that they where of hybrid origen either by us or by the supplier.
But some looks nice anyway I think :) or even extra nice for that reason 8)
Joakim
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Mark - 9 out of 10 mystery crocus are tommies! Take a look at the miniature bulbs image of white tommasinianus.
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here the last snap shots from my lawn... - its all (almost) over now :'(
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the very last one...
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Nice show just before closing time Armin ! Now keep the lawnmower under control for another few weeks ;D
Thanks for sharing.
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Luc, no problem at all - firstly my mower is out of order and needs maintenance. :-\
Secondly, I pollinated many crocus flowers by hand the first time ever - I'm eager to see the seed caps. Therefore, I plan the first cut not before mof June - regardless of the grass lenght... ;D
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Nice pics Armin. Watch for those seed capsules closely. They can appear above ground very quickly when the weather warms up. Once up they dry and open fast in the warmth .... and the seeds are lost :'( . Here many autumn taxa have well developed capsules and I am worrying that they will be ripe when we are away at Easter. Good Luck!
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Tony, I'll closely monitor the development! Many thanks for the hints.
But even in the event capsules open and spread in the grass before collecting I'll be not totally unhappy. My objective is to get a real crocus lawn! :P ;D
Beside, I find it personal interesting firstly, to see how much more seed is developed by hand pollination compared to natural one (considering the comperatively low number of insects in Jan/Feb timeframe) and, secondly, how much more seedlings develop afterwards in the lawn.
On the other hand it could be also exiting to collect the seed and germ them in pots. It just a matter of a suitable place and enough time. Hmm. I still consider what I'll do...Anyway, each will be a new experience for me.
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Tony G. + Thomas ,
Today flowering my Croc. minimus - it is really minimus .
Sorry but I have not a digital camera so i will give here a short description :
Flower complete :3cm
Petals : 8 mm long + 4 mm broad
Color like C. corsicus -but 3 weeks later
Bracteole visible
Leaves 6 cm long and 1,5 mm broad .
I regret but I have only two plants - and just only one flowers !
Greetings Hans
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I have some crocus flowering. Very heavy rains here last night, so the crocus did take a pounding. In the second picture, all those green sprouts are crocus seedlings, that I planted last summer. I should add my camera is very old and isn't able to take high quality pictures like today's cameras can.
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And finally ... the last to flower is this Crocus minimus brought back from Sardinia by a lady who really shouldn't have! Just the one corm mind you. Does this look like yours Hans?
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Tony ,
Yes my plant look similar .
Could you tell me the size of this flower ?
And I find it also interesting that this is by both of us the last flowering Crocus !
I'm now pretty shure that this plants which called "C.d.Bavella" -not C.minimus -I think thats hybrids with anything .
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Too dark now Hans for measuring the flower :) but it is about the same size as C minimus Bavella. Neither of these two, both in flower here now, is as large as C corsicus which finished flowering weeks ago. Interesting that you think 'Bavella' might be a hybrid. Perhaps between corsicus and minimus there are enough different forms to join them ... as just one spcies?
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here my last crocus for this spring:
Crocus veluchensis`Albus`
Crocus minimus`Little Beauty` 2x
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Here is a none too sharp shot of just about the last crocus in flower in our garden. The colour isn't good, I'm sorry! It is a little seedling which is cream in colour, very like Cream Beauty. He says he's feeling very lonely there on his own!
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Starting to see some flowers in my crocus holding bed. Mostly yellows, but some Prince Klaus are starting to pop up. I think maybe the pinkish one is firefly.
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Hi again!!!
Here is the lake and mount Abant where the crocus abantensis come from. Altitute for lake is 1380 m. and for mount is 1780 m. While everybody were thinking crocus season is over, for this altitute just begining. All these photos I took yesterday.!! I hope you will also enjoy
them.
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and I decide on toward to high...
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After pine forestier I reached to line alpine. Here was realy source for crocus. I have seen same time c. abantensis, c. olivieri c. ancyrensis.
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Here is the c. ancyrensis second endemic one after c. abantensis they were completely mixed with c. olivieri.
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all very nice, thanks
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I realy enjoy to share them and now I am posting one which is not known. I have read only somewhere by that name c. x paulineae in the same area. It should be hybrid between c. abantensis and ancyrensis.
But the petals are more broad. When the flowers are closed it looks fully
brown.
And at the last I will close with one colchicum.
I wish all the best to everyone.....
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Ibrahim, thank you I have enjoyed your pictures.
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Ibrahim, many thanks for sharing these photos with us. :) It is wonderful for us to see the plants growing in their home, especially to see C. abantensis from Lake Abant.
I am not familiar with C. x pauliniae, but these unknown flowers you show are most attractive.
I hope your colchicum was not too lonely among so many crocus! ;)
As you say, these plants are just coming to flower at this time, while in our gardens many are past. We have today one last Crocus scardicus remaining in flower!
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Thank you for taking us with you to see the flowers in their home!
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Thanks Ibrahim ! :)
Beautiful walk in beautiful scenery and outstanding crocus' !
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Ibrahim, many thanks for the beautiful pictures. I visited the Lake Abant in late summer. It is a wonderful area, but at this times no flower of crocus.
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What a delight it is to see your wonderful pictures Ibrahim.
I love to grow the plants but it is wonderful to see them growing in their native habitat and thanks to you we can do both.
I hope you have many more happy travels, please share them with us.
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Ibrahim, wonderful! I enjoyed your wildlife impressions from Lake Abant
Sorry, no idea about C.paulineae...but very attractive blossom.
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Ibrahim,
Lovely pics of the Crocus in the wild in particular. The blues of C. abantensis are really beautiful (in particular). Down here in Australia Crocus season is only recently under way as well.... Only Crocus pulchellus flowering so far for me, but Autumn is only recently underway. LOL
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I found this reference for Crocus x paulineae : Crocus x paulineae Pasche & Kerndorff in The New
Plantsman, 6(1): 44 (1999). [Pasche & Kerndorff, 1999]
[= C. abantensis T. Baytop & B. Mathew in Kew Bull.
30: 243 (1975) x C. ancyrensis (Herb.) Maw in Gard.
Chronn. n.s. 16: 528 (1881)].
Holotype: (Turkey) Bolu: Abant Mts., 1400-1800 m,
21.03.1995 HKEP 9516, in locis saxosis vel gramineis crescens (K)
It appears that the crocus was named by these two German plant giants for Pauline Dean, a British botanical artist, in recognition of the help she had given them in their work on new taxa for the flora of Turkey.
I hope to find a copy of the relevant issue of the New Plantsman to read more.
Thanks again for the pix, Ibrahim!
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Maggi. I thank you very much for your helpfull research about paulineae. The region and altitute are exact. So It means, I have many things to learn.
Franz. You made me surprise. I think you know my country better then me. I have seen your photo on zigana pass too! We know lake Abant only in winter with very nice snowy forest, but it looks very nice in summer too. I also have seen some crocuses and colchicums which should bloom in fall. Maybe you have visited the area just a little bit earlier.
I also would like to say thanks for all nice compliments..
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Wonderful images Ibrahim - I have just returned from a week away and the warm weather here will soon send all my crocuses into dormancy. You show us how they should be growing .... in their wild homes. Thanks!! Now I must prepare for seed collecting, many ripe capsules to gather in the morning.
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Tony many of mine are yellowing already - time for a potash feed?
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Tony many of mine are yellowing already - time for a potash feed?
If the leaves are turning yellow, I would have thought it's getting a bit late. I start when the flowers have just finished.
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Tony many of mine are yellowing already - time for a potash feed?
If the leaves are turning yellow, I would have thought it's getting a bit late. I start when the flowers have just finished.
Moi aussi as the French would say!
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I would have thought it's getting a bit late
Moi aussi as the French would say!
.......and that goes for the BD, too, though he was giving a late feed to some stuff that was getting a bit yellow, the other day before sailing off to Shetland !
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I knowed I was following feeding advice. Looking forward to the man in Dublin next Thursday.
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Are you going down to Dublin, Mark? Be sure to have time to see the botanical art exhibition by Rodella Purves, organised in conjunction with the RBGE, at Glasnevin, until 15th May. I've only seen photos, but they look fantastic.... huge painting of Pinus montezuma branches etc!
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Of course I'll be there! The lecture theatre is in the main building where I assume the paintings also are..
Yes, I believe that's where they are. M