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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: mark smyth on November 25, 2009, 06:31:29 PM
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On August 23rd I got Ornithogalum gifbergense. It was already flowering. Three months later it is still flowering. A bulb well worth a spot in a plunge
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Can't say I have heard of it :-\
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Maggi I showed photos but I cant find them on the forum. I'll repost here.
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as promised
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Wow, what a cute little thing. Very nice, particularly if it flowers for so long. Some of them, like O. dubium for example, can go on for months and months, while others are more or less one shot wonders. I'll have to look out for seed of that one Mark, given it is also a small one and that always has appeal as well. 8)
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Wow, what a cute little thing. ... I'll have to look out for seed of that one Mark, given it is also a small one and that always has appeal as well. 8)
Sadly, not on ICON :'(
Anyone want to do a WRA?
cheers
fermi
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Bummer, Fermi. At the "ooh I'd like that" stage I don't check ICON I must admit. If there were a chance of actual seed I would, but I rarely think of it when just looking at the pretty pics. ;D
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I'll go out and look for seeds
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On August 23rd I got Ornithogalum giftsbergensis. It was already flowering. Three months later it is still flowering. A bulb well worth a spot in a plunge
If i am right Marc found this little one at the Mid Anglia Group bulb sale last August.
Ornithogalum giftbergensis comes from the Giftberg in South Africa.
It grows about 10-15 cm high and flowers over a period of 5-6 months (with me that is).
Seedset is rare, but it makes offsets slowly.
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Hi Luc you are correct and yes no seed is set
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Wow, what a cute little thing. ... I'll have to look out for seed of that one Mark, given it is also a small one and that always has appeal as well. 8)
Sadly, not on ICON :'(
Anyone want to do a WRA?
cheers
fermi
WRA = Weed Risk Assessment; an 8 page form to complete to try to get a "new" taxon added to the "allowed" list for Australia.
Maybe it has a synonym which is allowed? ???
cheers
fermi
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WRA = Weed Risk Assessment; an 8 page form to complete to try to get a "new" taxon added to the "allowed" list for Australia.
So you are allowed to do you own weed risk assessments? ERMA does all that here and it's for environmental risk of any kind, not just weed potential. All costs, including the application itself, and the steps taken in the assessment, are down to the applicant. Minimum of $1500 per species at the present time.
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Nah, Lesley, I think he's just kidding us, by asking if WE want to pay for the WRA !
I can't find a synonym for Ornthithogalum giftbergensis.... probably because so far I cannot find a reference to that name, never mind another! :-\ ???
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I just Googled it also and found nothing
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I just Googled it also and found nothing
IPNI, Kew, RHS, google..... not a whisper..... help, anyone??
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The right name is O. giftbergensis without the "s".
See my posting earlier !
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Thanks Luc.
Alberto says it's name should be Ornithogallum ciliiferum but there is only one reference by name on the internet
Luc can you you tell us more about this plant?
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The right name is O. giftbergensis without the "s".
See my posting earlier !
Thanks, Luc...... but I still can't find anything! :-X :-\
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Thanks Luc.
Alberto says it's name should be Ornithogallum ciliiferum but there is only one reference by name on the internet
Luc can you you tell us more about this plant?
I obtained this plant from Mike Salmon some 15 years ago.
I can't tell you more than it is a S. African monocot, nearly evergreen and half-hardy.
Maybe the botanists changed its name since ?
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Source; Kew Checklist. The plant is possibly Ornithogalum gifbergense a synonym of O. ciliiferum.
See http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=283099&repSynonym_id=-9998&name_id=283091&status=false
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Thanks for the correct spelling Ornithogalum gifbergense and masses of hits on Google
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ornithogalum+gifbergense&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=null&oq=ornithogalum+GIFBERGENSE (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ornithogalum+gifbergense&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=null&oq=ornithogalum+GIFBERGENSE)
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Well, some google hits, but none terribly illuminating!
This from the PBS' Mary Sue Ittner in 2003 is the most informative I've found so far... http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-February/012599.html
(the rest are mostly of the : for X see Y, for Y see X variety. beloved of dodgy encyclopaedias)
Ornithogalum gifbergense U.Müll.-Doblies & D.Müll.-Doblies
=Ornithogalum ciliiferum U.Müll.-Doblies & D.Müll.-Doblies (1996)
Ecology and distribution
South. Afr. : perennial-Geophyte- Ht up to 0.25 m.in states: NC, WC ... is about as good as it seems to get!
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Needless-to-say it's not on our Bio Index but I think I can live withoput it anyway. ::)
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Nah, Lesley, I think he's just kidding us, by asking if WE want to pay for the WRA !
The "cost" of a WRA is the time to fill out an 8 page document and do all the research needed to prove that the plant won't become a weed. If the submission is accepted it can still take years for the name to appear on ICON. And, no, O. ciliiferum isn't on ICON either. So if we want it we'll have to do a WRA.
In the meantime we'll enjoy the pics on the Forum.
cheers
fermi