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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Paul T on February 17, 2011, 09:22:59 AM

Title: Salvia unknown
Post by: Paul T on February 17, 2011, 09:22:59 AM: Howdy All,

Can anyone help with the name for this one. It was received as Salvia chamaedryoides, but it isn't that species as that one has silver leaves and deep blue flowers? The flowers on this are quite large, perhaps 2.5cm or so, and the whole flower stem in the pic (the leaves are to the top left) is maybe 90cm in full length to the tip.

Any ideas on the name? The flowers are two tone in pale blue, and I just love it. I'd like a name for my records though. 8)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Onion on February 17, 2011, 08:24:06 PM: A very nice one Paul. But I'm on the beginning of my salvia collection.

The problem with the pictures in the internet arr the colours of the flowers. Often not true in colour.

Maybe your salvia is S. lavandulifolia or S. uliginosa
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Paul T on February 17, 2011, 09:41:21 PM: Uli,

Definitely neither of those. It doesn't spread like ulignosa, and the flowers are paler blue and very differently arranged rather than more or less at the tops of the stem, and the lavendulifolia has silver leaves, which my one doesn't. i googled both when you supplied the names, which is a great way to do it once I know what to check. ;D

Thanks heaps. 8)
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 17, 2011, 10:08:30 PM: No it certainly isn't S. ulignosa which is gloriously blue, rampant and growing to 2 metres in a wet spot. My mother had it and I did too until even it was overgrown by some other big perennials. Would like it again.

I quite like the sort of glistening surface of yours Paul. If you can get S. chamaedryoides in the cultivar 'Blue Ribbon' it is more compact and floriferous than the type. Stunning colour.
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Paul T on February 17, 2011, 10:58:55 PM: Lesley,

I do grow S. chamaedryoides, but not the form 'Blue Ribbon'. I quite the species, which flowers quite well, and I love the silver leaves and slightly wandering habit. The flowers are also small and such a lovely deep blue. All in all nothing like this unknown blue of mine. I must say that I just love my unknown though, as it is such a lovely pale colour and flowers prolifically for many, many months each year. No signs of any stolons or any of that sort of multiplication..... I really must propagate some from cuttings one of these days.
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Onion on February 18, 2011, 06:13:14 PM: Paul,

I don't want to make you angry but here some links ob salvia collections

http://www.cabrillo.edu/academics/horticulture/salvias/html/plantedout.html

http://www.neuhsa.org/salviacollection.html

http://vincentgardens.com/Salvia-Collection-C132734.aspx

http://www.salvias.org.au/Collections.htm
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: ChrisB on February 18, 2011, 07:19:50 PM: Hi Paul,

Don't know if this photo of mine is of any use, as it doesn't show the foliage which is grey-green in colour. A ground hugging species. It comes through the worst winters for me too... If you want seed from it I'll try to gather some this autumn.
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Stephenb on February 18, 2011, 08:08:59 PM: I received this from a friend on FB who is a member of the Salvia group on FB (the first part of the name was correct!):

"I suspect this is the lovely Salvia chamalaeagnea from South Africa". Cheers .. Robin Middleton
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Paul T on February 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM: Stephen (and Rob),

Thanks heaps. That does look like it, doesn't it. And given the similarity of name I can see why things got mixed up in the naming department as well. 8)

Excellent!!
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: fleurbleue on February 27, 2011, 09:09:36 PM: or algeriensis ;D or another species ::)

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://salvia.itgo.com/Salviaalgeriensis.jpg&imgrefurl=http://salvia.itgo.com/photos.html&usg=__96Zr4Lg3qhd1qawJChCVndvtw54=&h=178&w=143&sz=27&hl=fr&start=2&sig2=AXBvP3BbTjlhauh1EB-Xrg&zoom=1&itbs=1&tbnid=jsHqrBKly5S8XM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsalvia%2Balgeriensis%26hl%3Dfr%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=U7xqTeykDpDK4gbT3NiECw

I have not a shorter link ;D
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Onion on February 28, 2011, 09:07:51 PM: Not a short one, but a lot of plants to see ;D
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: mark smyth on February 28, 2011, 11:31:25 PM: I think my Hot Lips has been killed. Is there a possibility it can come up from underground?
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: Brian Ellis on March 01, 2011, 08:48:57 AM: Quote from: mark smyth on February 28, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
I think my Hot Lips has been killed. Is there a possibility it can come up from underground?
I thought mine was dead last year but it came back and gave a great show, don't give up!
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 01, 2011, 08:51:03 AM: mine comes back from underground runners Mark
Title: Re: Salvia unknown
Post by: ChrisB on March 01, 2011, 10:16:27 AM: Mark, I'm almost sure your 'Hot Lips' will return. I cut all my salvias to the ground in late April and they never fail to come back for me. Does depend how cold you are, but I suspect you are not quite as cold as we've been this last winter and I fully expect to see all my salvias. That being said, I am on very free draining soil, their preferred site...