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Bulbs General / Re: Lilium: a curiosity
« Last post by Rick R. on November 05, 2024, 09:00:02 PM »
Sorry for the late reply.   Yes, a lot of weird things can happen with all the environmental  changes due to climate change.  As you have probably already discovered, nearly all Lilium species are not self-pollinating, including L. henryi.  Some species can produce apomictic seed on occasion, but I’ve never heard of any reports of L. henryi doing it.  I think it is more likely that either: (1) a butterfly traveled from another L. henryi or Aurelian lily (that would have L. henryi parentage) and brought its pollen to your plant, or (2) the climate change triggered apomixis.

The pic you show is exactly what I expect to see in an unopened, developing pod.  Seeds that are normally flat like paper when dry are much much bigger and fatter inside the pod.  Even at that stage, if you know what to look for, you would be able to find embryos in viable seed.  I can’t tell from the pic, but even well pollinated flowers will produce lots of non-viable chaff. 

The seed is very easily damaged at that stage, hopefully some are viable.  But, I think I would have planted them immediately, too.  I would have planted them a cm deep or less, but 2 cm should be ok.  L. henryi seed does not need a cold treatment, but it won't hurt, unless there is a rot problem.  Last year I planted two forms of L. henryi (dry seed) in early June, and they came up a month to a month and a half later.  Good Luck!
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Flowers and Foliage Now / Re: November 2024 in the Southern Hemisphere
« Last post by Robert on November 05, 2024, 04:42:45 PM »
Hi Fermi,

The plant pictured “looks” like Brodiaea elegans. Making a definitive identification online is questionable. I would feel much more comfortable looking at the plant in your garden. If you have a large collection of Brodiaea species in your garden, hybrids are possible. In addition, seeds offered in seed exchanges can be misidentified, mislabeled, or be unintended hybrids. Such things occur much more frequently than we might want to believe. If getting a positive ID is important to you, my suggestion is to checkout the Calflora website (calflora.org). There are links to Jepson eFlora (ucjeps.berkeley.edu) where you can find dichotomous keys, as well as a detailed botanical description of each taxon.



Having written everything above pictured is a close up photograph of Brodiaea elegans ssp. elegans growing in its native habitat in El Dorado County, California. This photograph might be helpful for identification of the plant in your garden.



Pictured is another scene of Brodiaea elegans ssp. elegans in its native habitat in El Dorado County, California. It is one of the last Brodiaea species to bloom in our area each season. Brodiaea elegans grows abundantly on our El Dorado County farm property. It is mostly a low elevation species, however I have studied, in detail, a population that is found at an elevation of 5,125 feet (1,562 meters) in El Dorado County, California. This is well above the usual altitude range for this species.



Pictured above is Brodiaea elegans ssp. elegans in our Sacramento garden. If the species is well placed in the garden it can be quite effective in the landscape, harmonizing with other species, and making an attractive, naturalistic display. I have a number of interesting hybrids coming along, such as Brodiaea elegans x terrestris, as well as others. Brodiaea minor is another species I grow in our garden and enjoy greatly. It is a much more diminutive species and can be used in the garden in different ways.

I will be curious to find out what you discover about your seedling plant. I am always interested in how the Themidaceae perform in other gardens. May you have good fortune.
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Events / Re: Scottish Botanists Conference 2024 - 2 November
« Last post by FrazerHenderson on November 05, 2024, 03:45:52 PM »
Lots of posters as well as the talks dealt with alpine or upland plants.
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Events / Re: Scottish Botanists Conference 2024 - 2 November
« Last post by FrazerHenderson on November 05, 2024, 03:45:02 PM »
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Events / Re: Scottish Botanists Conference 2024 - 2 November
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Events / Re: Scottish Botanists Conference 2024 - 2 November
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Events / Re: Scottish Botanists Conference 2024 - 2 November
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Events / Re: Scottish Botanists Conference 2024 - 2 November
« Last post by FrazerHenderson on November 05, 2024, 03:39:17 PM »
some further images of the day - exhibits, pop-up bookshop, auditorium
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Grow From Seed / Re: arisaema seeds
« Last post by Véronique Macrelle on November 05, 2024, 09:59:00 AM »
and I've noticed that the list of online grianes is growing nicely. :)

and that I have more desires than I can order in bags! as usual... :P
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Flowers and Foliage Now / Re: November 2024 in the Southern Hemisphere
« Last post by fermi de Sousa on November 05, 2024, 09:15:23 AM »
Hi Robert,
those delphiniums are something else I  might try someday.
This Brodiaea came up as a volunteer - I wonder if it's Brodiaea elegans?
cheers
fermi
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