Tulipa 2013

[fermi de Sousa]

A couple of forms of Tulipa linifolia seen at our Rock Garden Group at FCHS on the weekend,
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[johnralphcarpenter]

Re: Tulipa saracenica/sarracenica, one of the Neo-tulipae from Savoy. Which is correct? Prudhomme (Etude des tulipes de France et de Suisse, Société linnéenne de Lyon, 1996) has T. sarracenica, as does Wilford (Tulips, Timber Press, 2006). The International Plant Names Index (IPNI) has T. saracenica (http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNameSearch.do?find_family=&find_genus=tulipa&find_species=saracenica&find_infrafamily=&find_infragenus=&find_infraspecies=&find_authorAbbrev=&find_includePublicationAuthors=on&find_includePublicationAuthors=off&find_includeBasionymAuthors=on&find_includeBasionymAuthors=off&find_publicationTitle=&find_isAPNIRecord=on&find_isAPNIRecord=false&find_isGCIRecord=on&find_isGCIRecord=false&find_isIKRecord=on&find_isIKRecord=false&find_rankToReturn=all&output_format=normal&find_sortByFamily=on&find_sortByFamily=off&query_type=by_query&back_page=plantsearch) as does eMonocot (http://www.emonocot.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:289626). If it means The Saracen's Tulip it should be one "r". So T. saracenica it is?

[Maggi Young]

An interesting point, Ralph - but this  tulip, found in Savoie and described originallyby a French botanist (Perrier)  leads to the conclusion that the Saracen connection comes from the french 'Sarrazin' rather than the English 'Saracen'   ( - in the same way as the genus Sarracenia comes from Michel Sarrazin, an early 18th century Quebec botanist and surgeo).

It seems that IPNI and the  KEW  Plant List prefer the anglicised version!

[johnralphcarpenter]

Yes, but it seems Perrier published it as Tulipa saracenica, (Bulletin de l'Herbier Boissier Ser. II. 5: 507. 1905)

[Maggi Young]

Yes, that's my point - he will have been familiar with Sarrazin but seems to have gone down the anglicised route- since he was surely familiar with the likely preference from the authorities!

For the genus sarracenia they stuck with the name of the person  - not that they always do!

[fermi de Sousa]

Our last tulip for the season, I think; we got this from Marcus Harvey as Tulipa aff sprengeri
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[Luc Gilgemyn]

A striking brick red, Fermi !!

[BULBISSIME]

Yes, but it seems Perrier published it as Tulipa saracenica, (Bulletin de l'Herbier Boissier Ser. II. 5: 507. 1905)

I confirm : Tulipa saracenica Perrier

[johnralphcarpenter]

Right, that's all the Tulips planted!

[Maggi Young]

Just the fifty pots, Ralph  ?  - cutting back are you? 

Thanks for the Aesculus seed picture , by the way 

[johnralphcarpenter]

You actually counted them? Actually there are as many again under the plastic tunnel to the right!

[johnralphcarpenter]

Long awaited monograph has arrived - some serious reading now required!

[johnralphcarpenter]

it's Tulipa edulis (Miq.) Baker rather.....

Looks like we will have to get used to calling it Amana edulis again, acording to the latest research (Christenhusz et al, 2013): they say that Amana, Erythronium and Tulipa form a closely related group and Amana is distinct from Tulipa.

[Margaret]

Ralph, I'm curious (and very Impressed) by all those pots of tulips because I can't see any labels. Have you got a clever system or are they all the same?

[johnralphcarpenter]

No clever system. They're all labelled!