TonyG
best to engage eyes and brain before typing.I looked at my gargaricus ssp gargaricus from Goktepe as opposed to ssp herbertii from Ulu Dag and these are flowering with and without leaves just like those I showed in the wild on Ulu Dag which is ssp herbertii.
In my defense those I have from Ulu dag are flowering without leaves.I did my previous post by trying to remember which is not easy as the years creep by.
Pictures attached poor but illustrative I think.
On the subject of C. ancyrensis which I have from several locations in Turkey they seem to grow okay(this may be their death knell).
I am allowed to potter off abroad okay as long as I leave a note of where our money is.In any case I have only nearly died a few times it does not happen every trip.