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Roma

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Clematis for ID
« on: August 25, 2017, 04:28:59 PM »
I grew this Clematis from AGS seedex 2010/11.  It was supposed to be Clematis texensis  dwarf form.  I haven't seen Clematis texensis in the flesh but none of the pictures I've seen look anything like this.  Any ideas? 
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 04:45:08 PM »
Sweet thing - a C. viorna or  hybrid, perhaps?
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 07:18:33 PM »
Cannot really help much, except saying that the whole so called group of C. viorna is a bit of a mess. I understand that even in the wild some species will hybridize when in the same area, so even from wild coll. seeds you may never get the straight species.
I've tried to ID a glaucophylla once, taking into consideration all characters and even so I did not get too far away...

Maybe forumist Afloden will know more, but I think is impossible to say precisely what your clematis is; very nice anyway.
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 09:57:55 PM »
Thanks, Maggi and Gabriela.  It is a pretty little thing whatever it is.  I must get it back outside.  It's been a bit neglected but I repotted it this year and kept it in the greenhouse to protect it from rabbits so the leaves are covered in powdery mildew :(
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2017, 08:21:08 PM »
I thought Texensis was red? Seed of Clematis can be obtained from the Clematis Society. They often attend at shows.

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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 12:56:59 AM »
Leaves would be helpful to see, but that looks more like C. reticulata. If the seed was from cultivation I would not rule out a hybrid though.
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 08:57:29 PM »
I'm a bit embarrassed to show you these leaves :-[  I kept the plant in the greenhouse to protect it from rabbits but the powdery mildew loved the conditions.  At the base of the stem the leaflets are single but there are three on each leaf further up and one of the leaves just below the flower has 5 leaflets.  Looks like I might get seed so will sow it and see what comes up.  I think the seed was from cultivation.
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 01:34:30 AM »
I don't see bracts on that peduncle which suggests it might be a hybrid with C. crispa in its history. Is this a first flowering? The leaves look a more rounded like Texas reticulata, but texensis, glaucophylla, versicolor, and pitcherii also have rounded leaves like that.
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Re: Clematis for ID
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2018, 05:12:40 PM »
No powdery mildew yet so better leaves this year.  Still just a single stem with four pairs of leaves counting the very small ones at the base so not going to make much impact if I plant it in the garden.
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