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arillady

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a bulb for identification
« on: October 06, 2008, 09:26:34 AM »
I was given this plant - the tag says Northolorio thomsonianum Liliaceae Afghanistan. I know that name is not correct but would love to know what it really is. It has pale lavender flowers which do not show up in the photo.
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008, 10:13:15 AM »
Sorry I can't help Pat, but it looks a beauty ;D
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 11:58:39 AM »
Pat, I remember to have seen a picture of Notholirion thomsonianum in 'Bulbs' by John Bryan.
So it is probably this bulb.
I don't have the book myself, but the bulb comes from Asia (Himalaya, Afghanistan)
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 12:10:36 PM »
Pat,

I've never flowered it, but it looks like what I've seen as Notholirion thomsonianum, so other than incorrect spelling you may have been given the right name. 8)
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 12:25:51 PM »
Pat, please tell us how to grow it.

I've had Notholirion thomsonianum for several years and so far there has been no sign of bloom.
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 01:50:24 AM »
I was given a pot of this bulb about 2 weeks ago. I must ask my source again - I think he said it came from an old garden.
As to growing it it looks to me to be similar to Ornithogalums and reading Garden Bulbs for Australia and New Zealand by James Hitchmough this is the only one of the five species in this genus that seems to be in limited cultivation. "Easy to grow when planted 75-100mm deep in a well-drained soil in full sun. This species produces a stout raceme of 10-25, 30mm wide flowers and is quite showing in its spring season."So that is all I know so far.
Will take a better picture today I hope
Pat
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 04:58:17 AM »
It certainly doesn't look like any Ornithogalum to me!
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2008, 10:20:10 AM »
It defintely looks like Notholirion thomsonianum.
Like all Notholirions it is monocarp. You should save seed and when it dies down you should look for side bulbils at the base. These need separating and growing on.
It is themost western species and not so much a woodlander as the other ones.
Good luck with it
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Re: a bulb for identification
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 11:11:22 AM »
I have moved various posts to this thread which had veered onto an interesting conversation on whether "monocarpic" was a valid term for use with bulbs.... this semantic  discussion seemd worthy of its own thread.....
see it here:   http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2644.msg60690;boardseen#new     
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