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Going slightly off-topic, are any of you growing "aff. grandis (2833w) ex Tibet" from the Mec Group seed list 2007? It's certainly not M. grandis, nor any other species I'm familiar with
that other native of the Kama Valley...
Thanks, Maggi! They do look very similar, the possibility had not occured to me as my other M. pseudointegrifolia stay more or less evergreen. (And I guess the complete lack of vigor this plant has had me wishing it would be that other native of the Kama Valley...)