Hippeastrelia

[jshields]

Anita,

I suspect that Hippeastrum x-johnsonii is another one that tends to set maternal seeds.

Jim

[Heinie]

I was not aware that this topic still has any interest therefor I did not post the following photos. The hybrid photo at the start of this category is named #1 on my records. Now 5 months later 3 more of the hybrid bulbs flowered and they are marked #2, #3 and #4.

This #2 bulb flowered with 2 flowers like the first bulb but the bottom petals are slightly wider than #1. I pollenated both flowers with my Hippeastrum Bellissimo which is a beautifull pink flower. I will do the same when my true Sprekelias flower soon.



This #3 bulb is a typical Sprekelia flower with only one flower like Sprekelia too.



The #4 flower is about to open a single flower too and it seems that it will look like Sprekelia too. I find it quite interesting that the first bulb flowered as early as May and now 3 more in October with all the Hippeastrums.

[Heinie]

A 6th Hippeastrelia decided to flower now. Note that this one has some white markings on the petals. If you look at the true Sprekelia flower it has a small white throat. I have crossed this one with a Hippeastrum hybrid of my own cross and reverse too with this first time flower now. If I analize the white Hippi flower there is a tendency of some Sprekelia flower shape or am I imagining things due to my excitement for the future. Can I put some hope on a white dominant Hipeastrelia with Sprekelia like flower shape and dark green throat? I certainly hope so but then it should produce some seeds first.

[PeterT]

The topic definately still holds interest here Heinie.
The variation is amazing.

[Maggi Young]

At first I read the message as a 6 ft flower.... I fainted clean away!
Now I read the text properly I see my error... but the flowe is no less delightful.
I see what you are hoping to breed for, Heinie. Good luck!

[Bill Seeley]

Heinie  we miss your  knowledge on the Clivia forum.

You know i am a big fan of your beautiful plants.

Regards

Bill

ps. i have hundreds of cabbage trees (kiepersol) from the seed i planted.How did you do with your seeds ??

[Heinie]

Maggi,

Pardon the confusion but it is my old habit of of writing the 1st, 2nd and so on. I am glad that you read the post again. The hippi is a fairly big flower but nowhere near 6ft. 

Two of my Amarcrinum plants are starting to open its flowers now and I will post them later.

[Zorro]

Dear Members of SRGC!
now i receive i hiperastrelia 'Durga Pradhan' from America, and bought Sprekelea in shop - and of course i have some Hippeastrum to make cross.
I give this information to Heinie direct and share to members of SRGC
i find interesting information on English book -
Wilson M.C. 1974. Zephyrantheae report.-Plant life,1975. v 31 p. 77-85
Cage J.M. Bigeneric hybrid of Sprekelia and Habranthus.-Plant life,1969, v.25 p.27-78
Cage J.M. Chromosome number and growth habit  of Sprekeanthus Cagei and Habranthus.-Plant life,1972, v.28 p.72
Bose S., Flory W.S. A cytological study of Sprekelia formosissima Herbert.-Nucleus, 1965, v.8, N2. p.115-128
you can cross Sprekelia and Habranthus Robustus for white flower
you can cross Sprekelia and Hipp vittatum
Existing cultivars or sort are:rose, coral-red, blushing red, black red-like black.
Name of  var.Harrison orient-red - with white stripes, Karwinskii,  Papa Gallo
 In USA did this Howard, Katrine Clint
very old cross - cross Sprekelia and Hipp vittatum on 1909 year var. Martinique from Luter Berbank  size- 22.5 cm diameter
chromosome (2n= 58-62,114-122,127,136,141,144-150,153-156,160,162,164,169,172,175,180)
in nature 2n=60
in Russian good book is Т.С. Матвеева. Полиплоидные декоративные растения. Однодольные.- Л.: НАука, 1980
Good Luck

[Maggi Young]

Hello Zorro, thank you for this information. 

[Paul T]

Heinie,

I never saw this topic last year, so this was all new to me.  Well done!  That's a great range of flowers, but I still like the one that flowered first for you best.  Have you separated them all so that you know which one is which?  Did you get seed set on your attempt to cross with the white one?

Keep us posted.  I find this fascinating.

[Heinie]

Paul,

Thank you for the compliment and I am happy that you found the topic now.

I agree with your choice of the 1st flower and that is my choice too. I numbered each flower as they opened by writing the numbers under a few of the leaves as they opened therefore the reason I refer to number 1 to 6. The first four flowers are part of about 20 or so bulbs in a 23cm pot. The last two were planted in a 17cm pot each about 18 months prior to flowering. The bulbs that did not flower yet have narrow leaves like Sprekelia. The leaves seem to be wanting to turn yellow and drop off so I will have to split the bulbs soon to be able to read the numbers under the leaves.

The flowers seemed to become less "attractive" towards the end but I am still very proud of the cross. I did not get any seeds either way with the last cross but I think I pollinated too late. Hopefully I can get another opportunity next season.