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Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« on: November 16, 2010, 11:35:28 AM »
I was just surprised to see that the title, etc. from the NARGS photo site did not come across with it.  
So am I. I supposed the result of the reference is predefined. But the reference works differently if the NARGS frame is loaded. I now try to change it, but it seems impossible to force the NARGS system to a reasonable output. Try it yourself and inform me about a better possibility.

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Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 02:10:01 PM »
I was just surprised to see that the title, etc. from the NARGS photo site did not come across with it.  
So am I. I supposed the result of the reference is predefined. But the reference works differently if the NARGS frame is loaded. I now try to change it, but it seems impossible to force the NARGS system to a reasonable output. Try it yourself and inform me about a better possibility.

jn

 ???  I don't understand what's trying to be done here, or what supposedly is not working.  When I look at the NARGS Image Galleries, the photo of Aquilegia larameinsis is right there, along with the detail information, what sort of "output" are you attempting???  I'm mystified.
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Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 02:23:31 PM »
I think the query relates to the fact that  the plant name is not shown directly in the link, nor is the actual thread identifiable from the pic. The name of the plant can be seen by right-clicking on the picture.
I think this is a simple difference in the way that the NARGS Forum displays enlarged pictures. Whereas here the picture comes up in the post, the NARGS version opens in a new window.  Is that the issue?

I don't know what might happen if one copied a link to a photo reference  meaning the file name of the photo) on the SRGC site- it might be that the same difficulty would arise. Edit: Nope that doesn't work at all  :-X

 
« Last Edit: November 16, 2010, 02:30:00 PM by Maggi Young »
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Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 02:45:55 PM »
I think the query relates to the fact that  the plant name is not shown directly in the link, nor is the actual thread identifiable from the pic. The name of the plant can be seen by right-clicking on the picture.
I think this is a simple difference in the way that the NARGS Forum displays enlarged pictures. Whereas here the picture comes up in the post, the NARGS version opens in a new window.  Is that the issue?

I don't know what might happen if one copied a link to a photo reference  meaning the file name of the photo) on the SRGC site- it might be that the same difficulty would arise. Edit: Nope that doesn't work at all  :-X
 

Well, if that's what being talked about, the SRGC images resize "in place"... with the file-name-link still below it .  On NARGS, images resize by popping up a new free-floating window... it can be moved around, and one can still see the thumbnail image with the file-name-link below it.  One can replicate the NARGS method on SRGC, by right-clicking on a thumbnail image and select "Open Link in New Window"... I do this often to get a direct URL to a SRGC enlarged image.  When doing this on SRGC, when the new window opens, at the top is displayed a "system name" for the image (the url + something like "attach=248933;image"), not the actual image title.  They are essentially the same, just using a different method of enlarging the thumbnail images. 

Still not sure what you folks are trying to achieve here. ???  Maybe create it's own topic, about how to resize or link images, athough since I don't yet understand what the issue or goal is, not sure what you might call it.
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Re: Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 03:02:26 PM »
I've hived off this digression  ;)

Yes, McMark, thought the two systems work slightly differently, the end result is the same. The file name (always supposing that is usefully the name of the plant and not just a line of numbers) can be found in both ways by a right click.

I'm not sure if my reading of the "problem" was correct in the first place, of course.  :-X
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Re: Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 03:36:51 PM »
Mark, presumably jn linked to the photo of A. laramiensis from the NARGS photo site on the main site page, as that is where I posted it.  (This discussion does not relate to viewing photos in the forum.)
I have not tried this myself as yet, but will give it a shot when I get a chance, to see how it works. 

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Re: Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 03:37:27 PM »
McMark,

Try to insert in a message in this thread a reference to the picture including the information surrounding it.
In the NARGS gallery, the pages are written in javascript.
http://nargs.org/nargswiki/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=10&offset=20
moves you to the Aquilegia thumbnails.
If you put the mouse on the picture of A. laramiensis, you obtain the following information about reference by the thumbnail
http://nargs.org/nargswiki/show_image.php?id=816&scalesize=o
If you click on the thumbnail, you obtain the image and surrounding information
whereas the reference above provides purely the image.
I analysed the source and found
<a href="show_image.php?id=816&amp;scalesize=o" rel="lightbox[gallery];type=img" title="Trough, Calgary, Alberta. Photo by L. Skulski"  class="linkmenu">
as the complete reference for the javascript environment.
Therefore it is not possible to obtain the result directly.
I suppose it is a sufficient elucidation and Lori Skulski
understands it is not my fault.
I intentionally don't insert external images in messages and
use references instead.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2010, 04:04:25 PM by Great Moravian »
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Re: Digression from Aquilegia discussion
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 06:49:58 PM »
Oh, is this what you are talking about?  When I mouse over the image on NARGS Image Gallery, I only get the "text tip" not the url, could be a browser difference.  On those galleries, there is a small magnifying lens icon under each image which gives details about links that can be used for various purposes.  That detail information is specifically for placing the links in an HTML page (the directions indicate this fact), or a second set of links for use in a Wiki page (in the context of NARGS, for use in the NARGS Wiki).  For usage here in the forum (will work for either NARGS or SRGC forums), one needs to simply copy the actual URL portion, then in your forum message use the Insert Image button, then paste the URL between the opening and closing "img" text.  I tried both links given, both work.


Image by Lori Skulski, Aquilegia laramiensis, 2009, referenced in from the NARGS Image Galleries


Image by Lori Skulski, Aquilegia laramiensis, 2009, referenced in from the NARGS Image Galleries
« Last Edit: November 16, 2010, 06:59:57 PM by TheOnionMan »
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