Crocus- and others, in Turkey, Spring 2011

[I.S.]

  Janis, just north and north west part of city, yes there is with red and pale style quite lots! also with black lobes! But just near city not far away!.
If you remenber  I have post some pictures from that part last year.

[I.S.]

  Here are a few pics of C. chrysantus,
From same habitation of C. biflorus caelestis. They were living very happy together and I have seen only one hybrid in so many crocuses.
  But this time again this chrysantus very different then the other chrysantus location.
-biger and globular shape
-bright yellow flowers
-allways yellow flowers tubes
-always red style
-no one has black lobes
-only one hybrid seen
On my ayes this was a bigger and vigorous one

[Armin]

Marvelous images from everybody.
I'm enjoying every picture lot!

The family of crocus hides so many secrets - it will still make us busy for a long time!
A pity I can't be out there in the fields to explore the unknown

[I.S.]

 Thank you very much Armin,

 Here are my most interesting two C. chrysanthus. If we accept these as a same sub. species. What is the mather to split the biflorus in so many subspecies!
 
  C. chrysanthus  AA
 -brigh yellow flowers
 -long red style divide near top of anther (I couldn't check all in wild just on my samples are like that)
 -never has black lobes
 -black spot in throat (while this is main feature for some subsp.)
 -tepals are rounted

  C. chrysanthus BB
 -brown, speckled, striped, rarely yellow,
 -style always creamy white - yellow but never red
 -anthers always black connective, never yellow
 -tepals are slender not so rounted like the other one

Here are a few pics that you will see these detail.

[Armin]

Hi Ibrahim,
simply fascinating

You raised good questions!
If you would have asked me if your samples are two different (sub)species my amateurished answered certainly would be, "yes they are different"!
But who knows? Maybe it is just part of the natural variation within a species.
Conclusion? We need more studies!

[Maggi Young]

Friends, I have renamed this fascinating  thread to include Spring months and not only February!

[I.S.]

 This time I had chance to see two locations of C. biflorus caricus.
The first location was very abundant but there were not various samples and they were nort part of mountain. It was dark so I could make only few pictures and they were not very clear.
Just two frame!

[I.S.]

 And here are some a few frame more from another location in another mount. In this location there were very good samples; striped or speckled on creamy or yellow background. But on both locations I have seen just a few with dark throat most of them were more yellowish.
 For me the most eviden distinction was thiny, long and upright leaves.