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Author Topic: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.  (Read 821 times)

johnw

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Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« on: July 09, 2014, 07:32:32 PM »
A friend has a volunteer in her garden.  It is almost directly underneath an aged Stewartia pseudocamellia and we assumed last year the volunteer was a Stewartia, the first ever.  Now upon closer examination the leaf margins aren't quite correct though my instincts tell me it is a Stewartia with its zigzag stems.  Bad instincts?

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« Last Edit: July 09, 2014, 07:35:10 PM by johnw »
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 07:28:59 PM »
johnw,

do you know if there are other trees near the Stewartia. The volunteer is not a Stewartia.
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 11:01:54 PM »
Uli - Oaks, maples, Clethra barbinervis, lots of Corylopsis spp., maybe Clethra tomentosa and assorted Hamamellis - Jelena, Arnold Promise.  Maybe a young Styrax.

That's about it.

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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 03:56:53 AM »
Celastrus scandens?
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 03:08:08 PM »
Gene  - I just dropped my friend a line and while she would never plant Celastrus she did say there are remnants of a very old one up in a hemlock tree on her property line.  It was either once in a neighbour's garden or a volunteer.  So you could well be on to the solution.

Thanks

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« Last Edit: July 19, 2014, 01:24:12 AM by johnw »
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2014, 12:33:41 AM »
I pull about 2 million seedlings of Celastrus every year, not sure if it American bittersweet (scandens) or Oriental Bittersweet (orbicularis), but it's an invasive menace.
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2014, 01:26:20 AM »
I pull about 2 million seedlings of Celastrus every year, not sure if it American bittersweet (scandens) or Oriental Bittersweet (orbicularis), but it's an invasive menace.

Mark - Does this look to be one?  I have read that Celastrus is a prolific seeder so curious that this would be the first seedling they have ever seen.

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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2014, 12:59:37 PM »
Mark - Just spoke to my friend and she says she has never seen a single fruit on that Celastrus.

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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2014, 01:18:34 PM »
Bittersweet (Celastrus) seeds about wildly here, in this photo it has twined around a Cornus and Rhododendron, on its way to to Pyrus calleryana 'Chanticleer', really must get into this overgrown area and hack out all the bittersweet vines.
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2014, 04:44:07 PM »
Johnw, just let it grow for a while.  If it's Celastrus, it will start twining.
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Re: Volunteer Tree-Shrub I.D.
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2014, 05:08:36 PM »
Celastrus seedlings pulled out of my plant beds today, there are about 1 million more.
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