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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2015, 06:10:43 PM »
I'm a trained investigator, Lewis. I'll report back if I find anything.

Aahh, I see, John, Good luck on your search.

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2015, 06:35:35 PM »
Does anybody know what the final item on Kurt's list is? "KZ150 Syreitschukovia spinulosa  W Tien shan, Sairamsu". The genus is not found on Google.

You can find it on IPNI, family of the Asteraceae,  Serratula spinulosa
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2015, 07:00:15 PM »
You can find it on IPNI, family of the Asteraceae,  Serratula spinulosa

 Fancy that - thanks Wim - how do you know it is the same plant? There do not seem to be notes of synonymy anywhere?
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2015, 07:34:23 PM »
Syreitschikovia spinulosa
Does anybody know what the final item on Kurt's list is? "KZ150 Syreitschukovia spinulosa  W Tien shan, Sairamsu". The genus is not found on Google.

I think the spelling should be Syreitschikovia spinulosa  which is in the plant list http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/gcc-137556


a google image search gives 
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=syreitschikovia+spinulosa&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI1-_Cjc2GyQIVgkOQCh2hvA-k&biw=1366&bih=643

 W tien shan  is the  Tien Shan Mountain Range 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tien+Shan,+Wensu,+Aksu,+China/@41.999521,78.8793621,8z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3862d128e40fb863:0x8be2b3853b89e54f?hl=en

and Sairamsu is Sairam Su Valley

http://kazakhstan.travel/en/attractions/attraction/612#map

and on day 11 and 12 in this report

https://www.naturetrek.co.uk/reports_new/KAZ04_report_080401_Tulip_Meadows_of_Kazakhstan_The_Tien_Shan_Mountains.pdf 

but I can't find it on a map 
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2015, 07:59:14 PM »
Crikey- it's a thistle!
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2015, 08:11:01 PM »
Well done Neil, got there before me!
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2015, 08:14:15 PM »
It's in The Plant Book (Mabberley) as well.
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2015, 08:55:00 PM »
What a clever lot you are - I'd never have managed to manipulate the spelling enough to get the answer! You fellows rock!  ;D
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2015, 10:53:35 PM »
What a clever lot you are - I'd never have managed to manipulate the spelling enough to get the answer! You fellows rock!  ;D

All  I did  is put the name in theplanlist.org search and delete the last letter one at a time, it comes up with suggestions once you get back to the beginning of a correct name .  Then you can normally see what the name should be  comparing to what you have too start with.

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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2015, 01:57:22 PM »
Great tip, Neil, thanks!!
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2015, 03:17:28 PM »
Most probably named for Russian botanist Nikolai Vasiliev Pavlov Syreitschikov (1893-1973).
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Re: Kurt Vickery - new Bulb list 2014
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2015, 07:01:30 AM »
Mmmm.
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