Gladiolus ID

[Regelian]

Hallo, all,
I was fortunate to finally bring a glad seedling into bloom this summer.  It was supposed to be a species, however, the tag had bleached so badly that all I have is ...se left on the tag.  In any case, here is a foto-group and maybe one of you can help me ID this deep scarlet glad.  Of course, it could be a garden hybrid involving the purported species.

thanks, all,

Jamie V.
Cologne

[Maggi Young]

Hello Jamie, lovely to hear from you!
Just working from the remains of the label, I cannot think of ant species with an  "... se" ending. There don't seem to be many Gladiolus which have the combination "se " anywhere in the name either. 

 .... deserticola, griseus, roseovenosus, sekukuniensis, and serpenticola  ...... none of which look anything like your pretty flower ...... hope there will be a more helpful answer along soon!

[fermi de Sousa]

Hi Jamie,
it looks a bit like the "red G. papilio" we saw in NZ a couple of years ago,
cheers
fermi

[Maggi Young]

 There's a pretty cultivar Gladiolus papilio 'Ruby'  which is similar, Jamie.

This photo is from the site of Desirable Plants - http://www.desirableplants.com/images/g/gladiolus_ruby.jpg

  ( and Julian Sutton of DP is the speaker at the SRGC Late Bulb Day this year    )

[Lewis Potter]

Either roseolus, sempervirens or insolens.

Even then they aren't red enough

[Neil]

If you put the label under UV light  you should be able to read it .

[Regelian]

Thanks, all, for the quick replies.

Yes, it does look like the red papilio. (thanks, Fermi!)  I do have the Goldblatt and Manning book (B-Day pres to myself!), where the flower form looks correct, but the throat markings are completely missing, as well as the dark, lustrous colour being atypical.  Fine, anything can happen, including these genes being shut off in specific clones, it just struck me as curious considering G. papilio is considered responsible for throat markings in our modern hybrids.

The seed may well have come from New Zealand.  I simply do not recall.

For now I will label it as papilio cf. Ruby.

This one plant has gotten me intrigued with Gladiolus and I am hoping to bloom some more from Silverhill seed next season.  More seed from Rachel is underway, as well.  Wee'll see how well the do in my climate.  May be a bit too wet for many, but ya gotta give it a try.  As we know, seed does not dooverly  well, if you leave it in the packet.

cheers,

Jamie