Lilium and allies (Cardiocrinum. Notholirion and Nomocharis) 2008

[gote]

Nice Auratum Tony, I think that the unspotte ones were called v. virginale but I have not had time to check it out.

Brian, Are you growing it outside or in a pot? I agree with Lesley and actually a whitish background gives better pictures with a whitish subject.

Göte

[Brian Ellis]

Göte at the moment it is in a pot, and has been since last spring so I was thinking of either repotting or planting out.

[David Nicholson]

Just had a look at what McRae has to say about differences between L. philippinense and L. formosanum but he 'bottles' it ".......it closely resembles L. formosanum in many respects". Very helpful!

[Paul T]

David,

I get the impression that cross-hybridisation in these two is so easy that it now is almost academic as to which you have.  A bit like Trilliums.... unless you have an original provenance as to the wild location the seed came from, there is limited chance of you being able to say with absolute certainty what you have.

[David Nicholson]

Both nice though.

Last March I sowed 11 seeds of Nomocharis, described as 'Nomocharis mixed', from the last SRGC SeedEx, and have 10 germinated. Should I pot them on singly, or leave them in the seed pot for another year?

[Maggi Young]

You could pot your nomocharis seedlings on, en masse, David, to a bigger pot with a bit of bone meal, no need to be potting individually  as far as BD is concerned!!

[David Nicholson]

Thanks Maggi, will do.

[gote]

OK Brian,
I was just curious since it is supposed to be quite tender but so many "impossible" plants have been surprisingly hardy these days.
I agre with Tony Avent (right??) who used to end all messages with:
"I regard all plants as hardy until I have killed them three times"
Göte.

[Brian Ellis]

"I regard all plants as hardy until I have killed them three times"

I'll try my best not to do so!

[gote]

Re-sent message due to breakdown:

Paul,
Meconopsis, at least many of them cannot stand high temperatures.
I am not sure about the borderline temperature but if you get up to 30 C, at
least seedlings will die.
Göte

[Paul T]

I posted a response to Gote's message, but as I post directly onto the forum rather than via email I don't have a copy of it.  Basically it was along the lines of the fact that 30'C is a coolish day for us in summer, but the seedlings never make it that far anyway, usually just starting to grow then dying off.  Doesn't look like damping off to me, but no idea what it actually is that does them in.  Maybe I am just sowing them wrong or something. 

[gote]

I think that this is high temperature damage the seedling leaves turn greyish and die off
Göte