Paeonia 2016

[Maggi Young]

Isn't is great to be able to refer back to previous years' posts in the Forum?  The growth on this paeony is very good indeed - it's a beautiful plant, Leena.

[Leena]

Thanks Maggi.
I thought this earlier discussion about my plant was last year or year before, but it was easy to find with search - it was even older  . This is such a good forum, it is too bad so few people write here any more. I don't have so much time to write in the summer,  but I have taken pictures to post in the long Finnish winter.

[Regelian]

Leena,
very beautiful!  Do the flowers open when the sun comes out?  Or are they always globular?  An interesting attribute, which one would expect to serve a purpose.  Maybe it is very rainy during the wild bloom season (just like what we are experiencing!!!) and this protects the pollen.  Beetles could be the pollinators, rather than bees.

I hope you can set seed for a SeedEx donation. 

Jamie

[Leena]

Thanks Jamie.  The flowers open a little more when they are in full sun, but they remain globular. They are always pollinated well by insects (I haven't looked which ones) and produce lot of seeds. I'm not sure of it's ploidy, perhaps diploid like normal P.obovata, no other species flowers here at the same time, but hybrids flower now and also the earliest lactifloras, not close to his P.obovata though. I have sent it's seeds to the seed exchange, but they have mixed them with normal P.obovata seeds. If you want, I can send you seeds from it when they ripen in the autumn (late September, early October).

[Regelian]

Leena,  thanks for the infos.  The ploidy would be interesting to know.  I've done counts on iris species, but never bothered on wild Paeonia, as most are 20 chr.  It would be interesting to know, as you do know the provenence.  I would certainly be interested in a few seed!  If you like, I have lots of seed from various P. rockii hybrids and clones.  Most of my herbacious peonia are still immature.

cheers and we'll stay in touch.  After all, we are virtually neighbours!

Jamie

[Leena]

I will let you know when the seeds are ready.

[David Nicholson]

Should seed from P. arietina be crimson red please, or is this perhaps non-fertile seed?

[Maggi Young]

Sorry, David - yes -  it is unfertilised paeony seed which is red.

[David Nicholson]

Sorry, David - yes -  it is unfertilised paeony seed which is red.

Cheers Maggi, thought that might be the case.

[Hans J]

Hi David ,

here is a older pic of a peony fruit (P.clusii )
You can well see there the black round seeds ...and the red "false seeds"

Best wishes
Hans

[David Nicholson]

Thanks Hans, just all red seed in my arietina seed.

[Hans J]

David ,

it is not so easy to get fertil seeds of Peonies ...special in a garden ( where many other peonies grow )

Anyway -my compliment that you have grown my P.arietina seeds from a seed grain to a flowering plant 

Hans 

[fermi de Sousa]

This Paeonia kesrouanensis came to us as P. mascula russi - it was a seedling of a seedling from a plant in Otto's garden.
Marcus Harvey was told (?by Hans J?) that it was not P.m.r. and the closest that he could work out to be is Paeonia kesrouanensis.
cheers
fermi

[Hans J]

Fermi

I have no Problem with the ID as P.russoi
 
P.kesrouanensis is really different ...it has naked carpells

Hans

[fermi de Sousa]

Thanks, Hans,
I'll let Marcus and Otto know,
cheers
fermi