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Author Topic: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap  (Read 1606 times)

Hans J

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Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« on: December 12, 2016, 03:06:11 PM »
In our garden grows since many years a nice plant of  Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol'
I'm pretty sure with this name because it is the only Ilex cultivar with such rounded leaves ...also this plant has male + female flowers at same time (monoecious )...so I got every years a lot of red berries
The seeds germinate in my borders ...so I'm sure they are fertil

I'm not sure if the seedlings have the same leaves ...and also not if the seedlings are dioecious ...and not monoecious as normal with Ilex  ::)

If anybody is interested for some berries so please write me a PM ( the post charges are 3,70 Euro )
Hans
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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2016, 04:55:09 PM »
Hans  - I have never seen mention in the literature of 'J.C. van Tol' having male flowers.  Is it possible a male has been grafted on your plant as this is common practice over here?


Here is the note on this cultivar in Fred Galle's book Hollies.

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Hillier on the other hand does not mention the sex, only a reliable fruiter.
John in coastal Nova Scotia

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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2016, 06:37:36 PM »
Hi John ,

maybe I have written unclear ...
In german description from tree nurseries is written "Self-fertilizing"

Maybe the flowers are "hermaphrodite " ?

I'm sure there is nothing graftet ...we have cut it so many time  :D

Sorry ..but I cannot give a better Information

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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2016, 08:17:56 PM »
Hi Hans.

I wrote to an Ilex friend here and this is what he says:

"'J.C. van Tol' is parthenocarpic.  I believe that it is not monoecious at least not on 2 different plants that I grew in Ontario and here."

Do the seeds look good?   Long ago I had an Ilex x meservae 'Blue Angel' and no one else nearby had hollies.  It always set a few fruit but I cannot recal every getting seed.

john
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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2016, 09:26:24 PM »
Hi John ,

thats a intersting answer from your friend !

The seeds must be fertil ...because I find every year young plants in this border ( I have no other Ilex and also not my neighbars )

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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2016, 10:43:12 PM »
I have a lot of Ilex trees around here (both wild and garden plants) but none like that!
Trond Hoy, gardening on the rainy west coast of Norway.

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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 12:56:44 AM »
There is also the apomixis that can be taken into consideration; I don't know if it's been reported in Ilex.
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Re: Ilex aquifolium 'J. C. van Tol' seeds for swap
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 02:52:44 PM »
In our garden it is immense.



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There are young people all around him. On the other hand his descendants are all like wild Ilex.

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« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 03:44:16 PM by Maggi Young »
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