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ArnoldT

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Re: April 2017 in the northern hemisphere
« Reply #180 on: May 07, 2017, 01:07:20 AM »
Gordon thanks,

My apologies Fermi.

Indeed it does list Pseudocydonia sinensis as a synonym for Chaenomeles sinensis.



It's a strange merge.

The Pseudocydonia is a thirty foot tree with fruit the size of a Rugby ball and the Chaenomeles is a small shrub at most 6 feet tall with a  small fruit the size of a cricket ball.

I have both within 100 feet of my house.
Arnold Trachtenberg
Leonia, New Jersey

GordonT

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Re: April 2017 in the northern hemisphere
« Reply #181 on: May 07, 2017, 03:46:39 AM »
I totally agree with you, Arnold. Hard to fathom how the thornless Pseudocydonia gets merged into Chaenomeles. Reclassifications sometimes seem so arbitrary ( the plant I once knew as Laelia purpurata, became Sophronitis purpurata, and now is known as Cattleya purpurata.... makes me wonder when will the madness stop?)Guess I'm old school at 56!
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ArnoldT

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Re: April 2017 in the northern hemisphere
« Reply #182 on: May 07, 2017, 04:25:38 AM »
Gordon:

I think this has to be a mistake.

Who does these things?

Not even close.

Arnold Trachtenberg
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Gabriela

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Re: April 2017 in the northern hemisphere
« Reply #183 on: May 07, 2017, 02:15:03 PM »
I feel the need to intervene. First it has been mentioned many times not to take The Plant List 'add literam', especially with complicated genera.

Pseudocydonia sinensis - is the chinese/korean quince shown by Arnold; small tree, solitary flowers, large fruits. Syn. have been going around for years as Chaenomeles sinensis, C. chinensis, Pyrus....

Chaenomeles japonica - is the japanese quince; the shrub with clustered flowers, small fruits; also C. speciosa and varieties - mostly cultivated as ornamental shrubs

Cydonia oblonga - is the tree quince of eastern origin with large fruits as well (which gives my favourite jam :)) Fuzzy leaves, large white/pink flowers.

 All of them had interchangeable names since ancient times, syn. as Chaenomeles, Cydonia, Pyrus and so on....



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Re: April 2017 in the northern hemisphere
« Reply #184 on: May 07, 2017, 03:12:43 PM »
Cydonia oblonga.
Ralph Carpenter near Ashford, Kent, UK. USDA Zone 8 (9 in a good year)

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Re: April 2017 in the northern hemisphere
« Reply #185 on: May 07, 2017, 04:11:23 PM »
Thank you Gabriela.

Arnold Trachtenberg
Leonia, New Jersey

 


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