Helen - why don't you put in some of your flower paintings, along with Primula marginata, to the Alpine Shows? I wouldn't say you were far from expert and however much I like photographs, botanical art catches flowers in a way that is never possible with a camera. There are a few artists, like Rosemary Cox, who give talks and some astonishingly good artists in the AGS. At our Rainham Show we also had an individual display of the work done by Rosemary Powis, who was Secretary of our Group for nearly 20 years, which included a wonderful study of brussel sprouts!