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unknown plant from Zakynthos
« on: January 02, 2010, 02:23:29 PM »
And also an unknown plant from Zakynthos .Anybody an idea?
We see it most on cliffs near the sea .
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 04:50:24 PM »
The flower looks like Armeria but I am not sure of one with leaves like those.
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 07:06:25 PM »
The flower looks like Armeria but I am not sure of one with leaves like those.

Simon ,the leaves do not match .
My first tought was Pterocephalus but there also other look a likes in the new flora of Greece.
So it is not clear anyway ...
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 08:06:31 PM »
Yes, I also thought the leaves looked different for Armeria, but the flowers also look unlike other Pterocephalus I know. What other ideas did you have?
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 10:53:20 PM »
Yes, I also thought the leaves looked different for Armeria, but the flowers also look unlike other Pterocephalus I know. What other ideas did you have?

I was thinking about Scabiosa and the other related wich I don't remind at this moment .I must see into the new flora of Greece for that one
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 09:40:35 AM »
Maybe something like Scabiosa crenata? Do you have other pics of your plant?
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 10:21:11 AM »
Maybe something like Scabiosa crenata? Do you have other pics of your plant?
Hi Simon ,the other related I don't remind yesterday was Lomelosia . According to Sfikas and Lafranchis Scabiosa crenata called now  Lomelosia crenata ...You're maybe right it is this one ,but the picture of Lomelosia crenata in the book is to small for me to determinate well .Maybe there are more pictures on the DVD-rom that was sold with this book .
I also look for other pictures I have made on Zakynthos ,I must have other ones .   
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 10:50:38 AM »
Yes, I found it difficult to find large enough pics of the Scabiosa online.Thehabit looks right, and the flowers seem to have a les pronounced difference in size between the outer and central ones- but the leaves are not clear if the are serrated like yours. It is a lovely plant though  ;)
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Re: unknown plant from Zakynthos
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 06:52:20 PM »
I sent the pictures also to Kit Tan (recommended by Tristan Lafranchis as an expert on Greek flora)
She could identify this plant as " Scabiosa crenata subsp. dallaportae "
In the new book from Lafranchis and Sfikas, Scabiosa crenata is named as Lomelosia.
Simon ,you're right about your ID.

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