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Scilla chamidoxa
« on: March 14, 2010, 07:41:07 PM »
I received this little plant as scilla chamidoxa. It flowers now just above groundlevel with the leaves just expanding.
Can someone confirm/correct its name and tell me something more about it
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 08:41:23 PM »
What a little honey it is. :)
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 09:16:59 PM »
Luc, this look to me to be a simple Scilla bifolia.... but it may be a hybrid Chionoscilla.... and maybe that is what the name was supposed to mean... that  the plant was a Scilla /Chionodoxa  ::) ???
This could have looked on a label like 'chamidoxa', eh?  :-\
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 11:23:27 AM »
As an afterthought... have a look at the photos from Yuri Pirogov of Scilla monanthos listed on the PBS forum.... here..
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2010-March/036431.html

" Scilla monanthos as seen a week before  ( posted March 4th) near Sochi, winter olympic capital 2014.
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46945.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46944.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46913.html

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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 06:42:34 PM »
Is scilla rosenii a possible ID ?
I find it strange that the one bulb never divided in the last 6-7 years.
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 06:59:20 PM »
When the flower is fully developed and in sunshine, does it reflex ( like a cyclamen or an  erythronium), Luc? Scilla rosenii always does that here.... it does increase quite well though...  :-\
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 07:56:38 PM »
My Scilla rosenii seedlings have only flowered once but did not reflex. The seed source was, I would have thought, impeccable. But maybe not. ???
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 08:16:04 PM »
As I've mentioned before, citing the RHS' Trials of these assorted scilla, chioodoxa etc  which was titled the "small blue bulbs trial", the case seems to be that I am not the only person who has trouble sorting out these plants !

A familiar tale with so many genera, isn't it!  :o ::) :-X
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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 05:47:54 AM »
It is not S. rosenii. S. rosenii always turns up its petals. It flowers a little bit later than S. sibirica.



It is not S. nomanthos (= S. vinogradovii). S. monanthos flowers are very light blue with darker vein.







Low growth could be a result of conditions. The Scilla is one of Caucasian-Turkey scillas closely related to each other and to S. sibirica.



This scilla is so small only at the stony place in the beginning of blooming. Then it become usual.

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Re: Scilla chamidoxa
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 10:41:09 AM »
Olga, what a pleasure it is to open this page and see your wonderful photographs, thank you!
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