Cyclamen linearifolium

[Maggi Young]

Alberto ,

I think yes ....maybe it is the main food for the Wolpertinger .....after eating this plants the animals changed the habit !

Hans, this may be a great subject for a clever student to make a thesis for a PHD degree.  I suspect you may have found some secret there for the genetic changes.
I am not so sure that the plant can be  found in Bavaria, however. I think the Italian who painted the plant must have found it in Italian hillsides and it is simply that the Wolpertinger is now more widespread in its distribution, while the plant has retreated.

What a delight it is that we are able to indulge in these specialised and esoteric debates in the Forum. I am willing to bet there is no other Forum where such a discussion would take place..........



 Edit: come to think of it, the first wolpertinger paintings were by Albrecht Dürer - a German genius.... maybe the plants  can be in Bavaria after all!

[Lesley Cox]

This new and amazing plant is REALLY going to upset those who say that with DNA testing, all plant knowledge is now extant, nothing more to be learned!

[Alberto]

Maggi, I am very sorry but the plant can be found, if it still exists  (if Renate has not collected all of them to sell to us to high prices), on the border of Germany with France (Icones plantarum Galliae rariorum).
Ciao
Alberto

[Renate Brinkers]

Still searching the plants I found some informations about it:
The first description says it was found from Mr. Olivier in the forests between Arcs und Draguignan.

The first description is from Lamarck and DeCandolle, 1805

[Renate Brinkers]

Yes, when I found it I will multiplicate it but as you all know: These quadrogeneric´s are really difficult in cultivation and multiplication and so the price will be surely a bag of Euro´s - or more!!!
But that is not really a problem, I got your bank dates and so, you can be calm, everything else I will do 

[Renate Brinkers]

Hans,
maybe a Wolpertinger has been there and brought some seeds to grow it in Bayerischer Wald! So, if you ever are there, find a Wolpertinger and you will find the plant.

[Renate Brinkers]

Alberto,
the strange animals, plants and especially the strange people are the reason why you are dreaming of living in Germany!

[Maggi Young]

Maggi, I am very sorry but the plant can be found, if it still exists  (if Renate has not collected all of them to sell to us to high prices), on the border of Germany with France (Icones plantarum Galliae rariorum).
Ciao
Alberto

Of course! Icones plantarum Galliae rariorum  I am not following my own advice....  C'è spesso un indizio 


Yes, Lesley, a cat among those pigeons! 

[ThomasB]

While searching the internet for Cyclamen linearifolium I found an article which mentiones this mistake as well as a yellow cyclamen. Unfortunately only the first page out of five of this article is for free. But this might be of some interest.

[Renate Brinkers]

There is also an article mentioned to C.linearifolium at Cyclamen Society from D.Clos
Clos D. (1893). 'Le Cyclamen linearifolium DC., simple anomalie pédonculaire du C. europaeum L.' Bull. Soc. Bot. France XL, 24

There will be soon an articel about the story as fas as it is known today from the Gartenbotanische Vereinigung (in German), incl. the first description and some further informations.

[Renate Brinkers]

Here is the link for the Clos article:
- [Clos 1893] D Clos, Le Cyclamen linearifolium DC., simple anomalie pédonculaire du C. europaeum L., in Bulletin de la Société Botanique de France vol. 40, 24-26. 1893 http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/8662#page/24/mode/1up 

[Lesley Cox]

Why do I have the feeling deep in my soul that the story of this cyclamen will bear marked similiarities to the story of the Haggis, its origins, habitat, lifestyle and associations both in the wild and in captivity, with humans?