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Author Topic: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?  (Read 1146 times)

Hans J

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is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« on: November 11, 2011, 09:12:42 PM »
Hi all ,

Yesterday a nice friend sent me a picture of Nerine "Mother of Pearl" which she has bought from Wisley ....

I was not shure about this name and I have searched a bit in the web ....

There seems a bit confusion with this name - what i have found out is that this name is given for a N.sarniensis with a white flower ...but it exist also plants with such pink flowers ( looks for me more like a N.bowdenii )

Has maybe anybody a true N."Mother of Pearl" ?

I would be grateful for any informations !

Many thanks
Hans
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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 10:20:08 PM »
Hans - This is what I have as "Mother of Pearl".   No idea if it is correct or who Pearl was.  ;)

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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 07:56:42 AM »
Hans - This is what I have as "Mother of Pearl".   No idea if it is correct or who Pearl was.  ;)

johnw

Thank you John - this is the confirmation for me that the plant from my friend is wrong named !
Do you have a idea which Nerine it yould be on the pic ?

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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 01:43:05 PM »
Hans  - I really can't identify any of the named Nerines or even guess at them.  I got a dozen or more named ones back in the early 80's from Tony Norris and a few locally; when importing became more difficult I concentrated more on the seedlings that have swamped me.

Malcolm would be the one with a grasp of the them.

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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 03:32:35 PM »
OK John - thank you .

I hope Malcolm will read this topic ....

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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 07:55:00 PM »
Hans & John, both your plants look like sarniensis types to me (no bowdenii blood); I say this because they've both straight stamens, bowdeniis & bowdenii hybrids tend to have declinate stamens, with a bit of a curve in them.

There are real problems with nerine naming in that breeders in the past tended to be operating in isolation & would name plants without reference to other breeders, meaning that two different clones would carry the same name ('Afterglow' is one such example, being a name assigned by an Australian breeder & also to an Exbury hybrid). As far as I know, there is no definitive list of nerine cultivar names with descriptions.

Hans, if your friend's Wisley purchase originated from the Wisley glasshouses, rather than being bought in from another nursery, it is quite likely that it was of Norris origin ~ when Tony Norris retired in about 1993, his collection was split, with Wisley receiving one portion & the Norris gift forms the majority of the Wisley nerine collection.
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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 08:40:55 PM »
Malcolm -  Thanks.  I see my Mother of Pearl impostor came from Garden Imports in Toronto in 1993.  So the origin would have been Holland.  Tony's naming was always impeccable in my experience and I don't recall him listing that one. Deep in my files are all his catalogues from those days, they might be a good starting point for a definitive list. We just need someone to get started at it.  ;)

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Re: is this really Nerine "Mother of Pearl" ?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 10:16:21 PM »
Hello Malcolm ,

many thanks for your interesting information - I will send it to my friend

With best wishes
Hans
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