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Linda_Foulis

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need ID please
« on: November 13, 2011, 06:55:51 PM »
Hello All,

We found this in a mossy shaded area growing with club moss, ferns and other forest floor plants.  It behaved like a wild strawberry, sending out runners.  The berry picture is of a single berry but it also produced multiple berries.  The berries have a single seed. 
Location was south west of Rocky Mountain House, Alberta.
I've gone through all of my books and not found anything even close???  Any assistance would be great.

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Re: need ID please
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 07:25:39 PM »
It's running raspberry, Rubus pedatus:
http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ri%5Cubus+pedatus&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1917&bih=984&sei=ghfATuabI4aGiQL6t-n4Ag#um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=rubus+pedatus&pbx=1&oq=rubus+pedatus&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3417l3524l0l5048l2l2l0l0l0l0l127l229l0.2l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3e0af84670a00d65&biw=1917&bih=984

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=RUPE

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0808+2013

Flora of Alberta, Moss and Packer: "slender creeping branches up to 1 m long and very short, erect flowering shoots, the latter 2-4-leaved; leaves mostly pedately 5-foliate, the two lateral leaflets often cleft almost to the base"; fruit "1-6 drupelets".

Berries of Alberta, Olga Droppo:  leaves "mostly 5-foliate or 3-foliate"; "occasional in moist woods and mossy banks in the mountains of western Alberta and in the Swan Hills".
« Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 07:46:45 PM by Lori Skulski »
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Re: need ID please
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 07:35:37 PM »
 I knew that I knew it - thank goodness for Lori coming up with the name before I tore my hair out.  :-X

Sometimes I have sympathy with the "things we know we don't know and thing we don't know we do know" muddle that a certain USA politician got into .... if I know I don't know something then I can have a calm curiosity to discover what it is.... but if I know I know but cannot remember, it drives me crazy!  ::)
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Re: need ID please
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 07:43:07 PM »
Thank you Lori, I was hoping you'd reply.  Yes that is it. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 07:51:54 PM »
You're welcome, Linda.

Both of those things (thinking I know something but don't, knowing I know something but can't think of it) are happening more and more often to me, Maggi - not sure which is worse!
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 08:03:35 PM »
.......... not sure which is worse!
That's another of the things I don't know...... :'(
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 08:40:26 PM »
.......... not sure which is worse!
That's another of the things I don't know...... :'(

We're getting to be quite a big club aren't we? ???

You know though Lori, that we want to know - is the fruit edible?
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 08:48:06 PM »
Edible, yes.... but how fruitful it is... that is to say.... how many acres of the stuff do you need for a pie? ....that I cannot say....  Lori, we need you again... or Stephen B   :)
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 08:58:24 PM »
I don't believe I've sampled it myself but it certainly does look like one of those things that would take all day to pick a pie's-full!  Alberta Berries is pretty terse and declines to describe the flavour, admitting only to "edible".   ::)
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Re: need ID please
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2011, 09:45:29 AM »
I just love the word 'Drupelets' in the description.  Yes, I know what it means, but it just sounds so silly for some reason.

OK, you all know I'm strange, so just live with it.  ;) :P
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Re: need ID please
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 10:42:30 AM »
Edible, yes.... but how fruitful it is... that is to say.... how many acres of the stuff do you need for a pie? ....that I cannot say....  Lori, we need you again... or Stephen B   :)

I don't yet have any experience, but I now have a few plants as seed Cohan sent me germinated in the spring. This is wha Plants for a Future say about it:

http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Rubus+pedatus
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