Allium sp JJA 17537

[Magnar]

I was sent these seeds marked Allium sp ex JJA 17537. Amankutan, nr. Seravshan, Samarkand, Uzbekistan 1700m.

Does anybody know if this one has been identified, would love to have a name.

[WimB]

Magnar,

In the Buried Promises list of Bob and Rannveig Wallis, it says "This may be A. protensum or A. sarawschanicum" but no certain name.

[David Nicholson]

In the Buried Promises list of Bob and Rannveig Wallises........

It's "Buried Treasures" Wim

[WimB]

In the Buried Promises list of Bob and Rannveig Wallis........

It's "Buried Treasures" Wim

It was on their first seedlist, called "Buried Promises"  

[David Nicholson]

Sorry Wim.

[Magnar]

Thanks, Wim. We shall see what it looks like when it flowers in a few years

[TheOnionMan]

Hmm, saying that an allium might be A. protensum or A. sarawschanicum is like saying it might be an apple or an orange!  Those two species couldn't be more different.  The exact wording was "Allium sp. ex JJA 17537 Amankutan, nr Seravshan, Samarkand, Uzbekistan 1700m. This may be A protensum or A sarawschanicum, both spectacular plants for the garden."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=allium%20sp%20ex%20jja%2017537&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.srgc.org.uk%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D8110.0%3Battach%3D320650&ei=dRUaT7SzAYmCgAeHiJ3nCw&usg=AFQjCNHwiF_SD-iEF3dAwz8Wspsyq5kX1g

Allium sarawschanicum is a tall (3-4') purple "cricket ball" allium along the lines of familiar A. jesdianum, giganteum, hollandicum, stipitatum, and dozens more.  Allium protensum on the other hand is one of the "dwarf giants", along the lines of A. schubertii, A. cristophii, with low stature like A. karataviense but enormous diffuse heads of little florets.  Allium protensum has beige or brown colored flowers, unique to be sure but not showy, I flowered this species but once.  How a seed offering can compare these two extremes of Alliumism as possibilities for what was collected, certainly raises my eyebrow.  All that I can discern from this description is that it's an allium from Uzbekistan   

[WimB]

Hmm, saying that an allium might be A. protensum or A. sarawschanicum is like saying it might be an apple or an orange!  Those two species couldn't be more different.  The exact wording was "Allium sp. ex JJA 17537 Amankutan, nr Seravshan, Samarkand, Uzbekistan 1700m. This may be A protensum or A sarawschanicum, both spectacular plants for the garden."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=allium%20sp%20ex%20jja%2017537&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.srgc.org.uk%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D8110.0%3Battach%3D320650&ei=dRUaT7SzAYmCgAeHiJ3nCw&usg=AFQjCNHwiF_SD-iEF3dAwz8Wspsyq5kX1g

Allium sarawschanicum is a tall (3-4') purple "cricket ball" allium along the lines of familiar A. jesdianum, giganteum, hollandicum, stipitatum, and dozens more.  Allium protensum on the other hand is one of the "dwarf giants", along the lines of A. schubertii, A. cristophii, with low stature like A. karataviense but enormous diffuse heads of little florets.  Allium protensum has beige or brown colored flowers, unique to be sure but not showy, I flowered this species but once.  How a seed offering can compare these two extremes of Alliumism as possibilities for what was collected, certainly raises my eyebrow.  All that I can discern from this description is that it's an allium from Uzbekistan    

  I guess they haven't seen it in bloom then!

[TheOnionMan]

Apparently not!  Nor did they notice if the stem was over a meter tall or 30 cm or less.

[WimB]

Apparently not!  Nor did they notice if the stem was over a meter tall or 30 cm or less.

  

[Magnar]

Apparently not!  Nor did they notice if the stem was over a meter tall or 30 cm or less.

I am sure I shall be able to tell how tall the stem is whwn the time is there