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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2013, 06:22:46 PM »
Kris,
your Sternbergia sicula grow as the natural habitat, Superb!
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2013, 06:40:00 PM »
Quote from: hadacekf on October 03, 2013, 06:22:46 PM
Kris,
your Sternbergia sicula grow as the natural habitat, Superb!

Thanks for the compliments Franz !
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #92 on: October 05, 2013, 06:44:51 PM »
Nice Sternbergias from all,
here some in my garden:
Sternbergia sicula from Corfu
Sternbegia greuteriana, stoloniferae form with unknown orgin,
the smallest flowers from all
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #93 on: October 07, 2013, 02:57:21 PM »
A good year for sternbergia here.  The last to flower are these which I was given under the name Sternbergia lutea angustifolia.  Whatever you cal them, they're doing OK!
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #94 on: October 07, 2013, 03:08:15 PM »
Quote from: tonyg on October 07, 2013, 02:57:21 PM
A good year for sternbergia here.  The last to flower are these which I was given under the name Sternbergia lutea angustifolia.  Whatever you cal them, they're doing OK!


........ and my usual rubbish year here, but I'll keep trying, I'm a glutton for punishment.
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #95 on: October 07, 2013, 04:29:28 PM »
Quote from: tonyg on October 07, 2013, 02:57:21 PM
A good year for sternbergia here.  The last to flower are these which I was given under the name Sternbergia lutea angustifolia.  Whatever you cal them, they're doing OK!
They are doing OK Tony, but very different from what I have under that name (originally from Mike Salmon). However,  I suspect it is a fictitious taxon
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #96 on: October 09, 2013, 11:51:28 PM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on October 07, 2013, 04:29:28 PM
They are doing OK Tony, but very different from what I have under that name (originally from Mike Salmon). However,  I suspect it is a fictitious taxon

Tropicos  <  http://www.tropicos.org/NameSearch.aspx?name=cyclamen+luteum&commonname=  >  only lists subsp. graeca and sicula, so I think "fictitious" is the operative  word.

I need to go see if my S. lutea have started blooming yet.  None have started yet anywhere close to the house.

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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #97 on: October 10, 2013, 09:20:54 AM »
Quote from: jshields on October 09, 2013, 11:51:28 PM
Tropicos  <  http://www.tropicos.org/NameSearch.aspx?name=cyclamen+luteum&commonname=  >  only lists subsp. graeca and sicula, so I think "fictitious" is the operative  word.

I need to go see if my S. lutea have started blooming yet.  None have started yet anywhere close to the house.

Jim

 ???  Two completely different genera here Cyclamen (which counts graecum as one of it's own) and Sternbergia which has lutea. I'm all in favour of lumping but that's rediculous ;D
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #98 on: October 10, 2013, 10:57:04 AM »
Recent studies at Kew - morphometric & phylogenetic - suggest that S.sicula & S. greuteriana should be included in S. lutea which  is described as a very variable species. I recall seeing a reference to "S. sicula graeca" years ago but cannot recall where.
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #99 on: October 10, 2013, 11:54:12 AM »
Sternbergia lutea have been wonderful this year, very dry & warm, must suit their needs.
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #100 on: October 10, 2013, 03:00:09 PM »
Quote from: David Nicholson on October 10, 2013, 09:20:54 AM
???  Two completely different genera here Cyclamen (which counts graecum as one of it's own) and Sternbergia which has lutea. I'm all in favour of lumping but that's rediculous ;D

That's what happens when I try to do two things at once!  Or maybe it's just time taking its toll on the little grey cells!

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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #101 on: October 10, 2013, 03:06:02 PM »
Kew lists Sternbergia lutea with three subspecies:
graeca
greuteriana
sicula
at:
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/advsearch.do;jsessionid=FC7FF6025E4C84C046382B3AABF94814

Which is what I was after in the first place.

Sternbergia lutea seems perfectly hardy outdoors here.  S. sicula did not survive outdoors here in my rock garden.

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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #102 on: October 10, 2013, 03:30:04 PM »
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #103 on: October 10, 2013, 07:03:32 PM »
Quote from: jshields on October 10, 2013, 03:00:09 PM
That's what happens when I try to do two things at once!  Or maybe it's just time taking its toll on the little grey cells!

Jim

Know the feeling well Jim!
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Re: Sternbergia 2013
« Reply #104 on: October 10, 2013, 08:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Mike Ireland on October 10, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
Sternbergia lutea have been wonderful this year, very dry & warm, must suit their needs.

It looks great Mike !
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