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David Nicholson

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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 05:21:03 PM »
Very pretty Mark.
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 05:29:32 PM »
thanks David - all in all re the allioniis they've not had a good year - too damp I think. Lots of cushions with holes in them
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 07:14:50 PM »
Mark, I haven't come across anything that it has been a good year for!
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 07:35:04 PM »
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Mark, I haven't come across anything that it has been a good year for!


Austerity  ? ::)
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 08:54:18 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 11:59:56 PM »
Quote from: Michael J Campbell on February 18, 2013, 07:35:04 PM

Austerity  ? ::)

They are some kind of lillies aren't they? Austerity Lillies. Yes, I think you are right. Too cold for lilly beetles last year.
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2013, 09:49:03 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2013, 06:10:03 PM »
A few more allioniis - Marion, Malcolm, Rosemary and Anna Griffith

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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 06:09:19 PM »
Mark,
congratulation. Very beautiful. 8)
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2013, 08:12:37 PM »
David's confused----again!

I was in a Garden Centre today and they had a fixture full of lovely little plants they had billed as Primula officinalis, so I bought one. Having moaned at Maureen that it was just a nice form of P. veris, but worth having, and remarking that I'd never heard of P officinalis, and it was probably a garden centre made-up name anyway.

When I got home I did a bit of research. The Plant List has P officinalis (L) Hill as an accepted name and quotes a source as Tropicos-26401269, which mentions a (basionym?) of P. veris var officinalis (L).

I then looked at what John Richards had to say in "Primula". He says P officinalis (L) Hill 1764 as a synonym of P veris (L)

I just don't understand how or why The Plant List can declare P officinalis (L) Hill to be an accepted name when it is clearly a synonym.

Having looked at what Richards has to say about P veris he remarks that it has "orange to red spots" at the base of each lobe but I don't remember seeing these on my plant? Must get a pic tomorrow.
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2013, 04:18:58 PM »
Well here's the plant. In my view it's just a rather pretty hybrid but I'd be interested how others see it.

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David Nicholson
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2013, 04:38:09 PM »
David, it looks a bit like the False Oxlip which is P.vulgaris x P. veris I think. I've found them in the wild and they are lovely things.
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2013, 08:16:53 PM »
You could well be right Mark, there certainly seems to me to be some vulgaris in it. Judging by the quantity on sale when I bought mine I doubt if they would have been seed raised, maybe some tissue culture has been going on. Why it should have been given a species name the Lord only knows.
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2013, 08:53:56 PM »
Looks like it is a very old name for P.veris  - and a name now kept alive by herbalists and their ilk judging by the nature of the google listings.
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Re: Primula 2013
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2013, 09:20:44 AM »
No matter what the true name may be. It is a beautiful plant.
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