Allium 2013

[Maggi Young]

That's what comes of looking at a nursery list on a wet day -  cue retail therapy at Potterton's!! !!
 

....and the order is on its way! 

[Rimmer de Vries]

Rimmer, I seem to have the same Allium as yours. Unfortunately, without a name. It was given to me some years ago as a year old seedlings with the notice "something alliacea". It must have been collected in Russia which doesn't exclude Chinese species. I will try to investigate. The plant is slender, with flowerheads of not more than 3 cm looking a bit greyish to me which the picture doesn't show

Yes olegKon
My allium is grayish mauve.
The leaves are not hollow but a bit scaberous and curved but the stem is smooth


Rimmer

[TheOnionMan]

Grown from seed, one of many Alliums collected in Kazakhstan in 2010 by Panayoti Kelaidis is currently blooming, labeled as Allium sp. Kalbinsky Hills, out of Ust Kamenogorst, Kazakhstan, accession #1. Off hand it looks like Allium lineare, but will give it a more detailed evaluation.  The first photo showing whole plants was taken several days ago in the rain, the rest were taken today, we actually had a couple hours where it wasn't raining.



 

My wife has a new Canon EOS Rebel T3i 600D DSLR camera, and has been taking photos of garden plants, so the next two are her photos (never dreamed she would be taking photos of plants ), here again, you can see that the nectariferous flowers are attractive to ants and bees.

 


Subsequent ID review by Vladimir Epiktetov on the Alliorum Facebook group, determined that my plants are Allium strictum, not the closely related Allium lineare.  McMark 10/2015

 Further note byMark McD : Alliums of the lineare/strictum type, are quite easy to move around at most any time, they wake up and go into root and winter-foliage growth in autumn.

[Maggi Young]

Very good photos from Mrs McD and her new camera - competition in the McMark household for the best......?!

[TheOnionMan]

No competition really, the trick is to convince her which plants will be best to photograph. 

[pontus]

thats a very nice allium Mark, I like plants from Afghanistan and Kazhakstan alot...its a shame many people dont know that those 2 countries have such fascinating and wonderfull plants!

joking aside to finish off...I thought your wife would have preferred to get the Canon Eos5D MARK! 3!!!..hehe

even though i am more of a nikon person i admit she was able to capture the allium very nicely with her canon!

[wmel]

This 30" tall allium is just beginning to bloom now. Flowers are about 1.25" dia. Leaves are still green on stem and clasp stem at bottom few inches
Grown from NARGS seed 2009-10 #4484 from china
Any Ideas on id?
Thank you

Could it be allium macrostemon var uratense??
I also post a photo from my macrostemon.
(or maby the one Mark posted)?

http://www.nature-museum.net/album/ShowSpAlbum.aspx?spid=50154

[Rimmer de Vries]

Could it be allium macrostemon var uratense??
I also post a photo from my macrostemon.
(or maby the one Mark posted)?

your picture show a similar allium but it appears pinker than mine.

Thank you

[TheOnionMan]

Wietse, I started looking at A. macrostemon, not a species I'm very familiar with, and hard to find any photos of (particularly those that are fully floriferous without bulbils). I check Flora of China first, and curiously, it describes the stamen filaments as *shorter* than the tepals (makes no sense, given the species name which indicates long or big stamens), FOC reports the filaments as "1/2 as long as to slightly shorter than perianth segments"!? Scape height is given as 30--70 cm.

So I jump over to Flora of the USSR; it describes filaments are one forth as long again as the perianth segments, or 1.25x the tepals, or exserted moderately.  Scape height is given as a range 40 - 90 cm.  It also describes var. uratense Airy-Shaw 1931, for a rare form without bulbils in the inflorescence.  Most current taxonomic references do not recognize var. uratense, although the Gatersleben IPK Taxonomic Allium Reference Collection does. In Fair Use Provision, here are two photos of Allium macrostemon var. uratense from IPK Gatersleben, from a collection from Mongolia.




And here's an updated photo of my Allium sp. China, with two bloom heads tangled together, a closeup view to see the floral parts. At first I must have dismissed macrostemon because it's typically a bulbillerous thing, and var. uratense is not accepted in FOC, but there is indeed a resemblance, more obvious to me now when seeing the Gatersleben images.  Good suggestion!  I shall look at it again to see how close it matches.



Rimmer, I wouldn't worry too much about flower color that much, from the descriptions, like many alliums, it can be found in a range of color shades, as we see two shades of pink above.

[Rimmer de Vries]

back to the possible allium macrostemon var uratense

i took photos with a camera instead of the phone, but still far inferior to the photos by Mark's wife
the stems are 75cm tall , leaves are not hollow but curve around stem and retain the curve almost their entire length, sheathing the base of the stem, leaves are rough- scabrous, stem is smooth and deep green color

very similar to Wietse's picture in all but flower color. 

[Rimmer de Vries]

This small early blue onion came as Allium sikkimense
flowers hang from an umbel
is this identified correctly?

Thank you

[Rimmer de Vries]

Any idea on this vigorous small grass like allium with tiny buds forming on the end of the stems which are separate from the leaves
 Thanks

[wmel]

Any idea on this vigorous small grass like allium with tiny buds forming on the end of the stems which are separate from the leaves
 Thanks

At this moment it could be about 50 different alliums, but when we wait till it is flowering it is more easy to make a choice......

[wmel]

This small early blue onion came as Allium sikkimense
flowers hang from an umbel
is this identified correctly?
Thank you

It can be sikkimense, but as I have two other new blue Alliums , which I just do not know at the time what is what , I'm going to wait until they all in bloom before I dare to say which is which.
I thought there were three small blue Alliums looking  something similar.
(cyaneum, beesianum and Sikkimense)( I grow them all 3), but it seems like there are more .....
Once they are blooming well, I post a photo.

[wmel]

I have a few Alliums which are a bit unclear.
In blue there is sikkimense, first blooms (to me), then there is forrestii ?? which then blooms and then come cyaneum and beesianum.
From  SRGC seed distribution I got seed (spring 2012); number 142 =  beesianum and number 163 =forrestii.
is this correct? (See photos) beesianum and cyaneum (from my own collection), are not flowering in the fist 2 weeks from now here.
Also attached my sikkimense (photo).