Allium 2013

[wmel]

Then there is seed 132 from 2011/2012 SRGC  allium aciphyllum, flowering now with a very beautyful color.
It is a smal plant about20 centimeters high.

[wmel]

SRGC seed 155 2011/2012 had to be cyaneum but is Cyathophorum var farreri
SRGC seed 204 2011/2012 had to be sikkimense also cyathophorum.....
al the other seeds are NOT cyathophorum, but from a lot of them I don't know what it is, also some surprises!!!

Is there someone who can tell me the difference between allium altaicum, ascalonicum and fistulosum, because they al look like fistulosum a lot.......

And some photos of our fields today. Harvest is started, and at last summer arrived here yesterday.....
In the last photo you can see the beauty of allium karataviense in seed-balls long after flowering is over!

[Rimmer de Vries]

I have a few Alliums which are a bit unclear.
In blue there is sikkimense, first blooms (to me), then there is forrestii ?? which then blooms and then come cyaneum and beesianum.
From  SRCG seed distribution I got seed (spring 2012); number 142 =  beesianum and number 163 =forrestii.
is this correct? (See photos) beesianum and cyaneum (from my own collection), are not flowering in the fist 2 weeks from now here.
Also attached my sikkimense (photo).

Wow!
 Wietse, you have great germination rates from these SRGC Seed Ex seed lots- and so many plants too. i tried all these seeds and 1 have 1 to 5 tiny plants to show and they seem to disappear forever in the hot summer here.  Do you plant your seed directly outside in late January- February when the seed arrives or do you wait until spring or summer to start? or start inside in warm?

 per Mark's website
http://www.plantbuzz.com/allium/gallery/blue/blue_gallery1.htm
http://www.plantbuzz.com/allium/gallery/summer/im_Allium_beesianum.htm

beesianum blooms in late summer and has long tepals and the stamens are not exserted or do not extend beyond the tepals.

I love all your alliums
Rimmer

[Afloden]

Mark,
 
The last time I tried keying that species from Chen Yi I got to macrostemum, but felt that must be wrong because of the bulbiliferous nature of that species. Now the www has much better selection of images and I think that if we and others have come to that species independently of one another it must be correct!! Mine did not flower this year, but did put up a lot of leaves.

 Aaron

[wmel]

Wow!
 Wietse, you have great germination rates from these SRGC Seed Ex seed lots- and so many plants too. i tried all these seeds and 1 have 1 to 5 tiny plants to show and they seem to disappear forever in the hot summer here.  Do you plant your seed directly outside in late January- February when the seed arrives or do you wait until spring or summer to start? or start inside in warm?
Rimmer

I am always sowing seeds of all my allium early November outside in the "garden". seeds of SRGC arrive in February and if the ground is not frozen I sow them directly in the garden. otherwise they go first in the cooling at 5 degrees until they can be sown outside.

[TheOnionMan]

Weitse, I think the allium from SRGC seed as forrestii is a very nice form of A. beesianum.  As far as I know, A. forrestii does not occur in blue, also it has a different look and shape to the flowers.  See the link in Flora of China, there are some photo links there, the 1st photo and 4th photo by Susan Kelley look incorrectly identified, however look at photos #2, 3, & 5.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027479

A good page on Allium forrestii:
http://frps.eflora.cn/frps/Allium%20forrestii

Also, can you show us the leaves and whole plant on A. aciphyllum. I've never found plants in cultivation to be the correct species; here's a link that shows it (3 photos, each can be clicked).
http://frps.eflora.cn/frps/Allium%20aciphyllum

[TheOnionMan]

Aaron, on this eFlora.cn site, lots of good information and hard-to-find photos, here's a gallery of images on A. macrostemon, again, reinforcing the identification:
http://frps.eflora.cn/frps/Allium%20macrostemon

[wmel]

some photos of allium "aciphyllum" flower and plant

allium sivasicum

[TheOnionMan]

Weitse, I'm thrilled to see Allium sivasicum, they look like they're thriving for you, such a deep maroon color with a glaucous "bloom" on the outside of the flowers, congratulations!  I grew this from the MacPhail and Watson expedition to Turkey back in the late 1970s, mine were a softer maroon color (although it is reported flower color can range to yellow, greenish yellow, or white, tinged or overlaid with pink, brown, or purple.

I'm not sure about the Allium aciphyllum identification.  It's near impossible to find an accurately ID'd photo on the internet, I hope that the Chinese plant photo link I gave in the message above (from eflora.cn) shows what this species should look like.  The leaves are described a 1 mm wide, the leaves on your plant look wider than that. It's a very interesting bloom, but I'm wondering what it might actually be.

In the Fair Use Provision, here are two view from the aforementioned Chinese web site showing Allium aciphyllum.

 

[wmel]

Some new beautys from today (yesterday)
also as promised allium scabriscapum, and one of the macrostemon flowers has bulbils..........

allium myrianthum
allium balansae
allium scabriscapum
allium luteolum
allium macrostemon
allium parnassicum
allium kunthianum
allium hirtovaginum

[wmel]

and the last 3 flowers...
+ harvesting today and yesterday al specialitys with a few bulbs each.

[Maggi Young]

This picture was pilfered from the Eurosport website  - it's a nice litte  joke - sky and flowers - showing the blue sky and allium blooms -  oh yes, and the Sky cycling team in le Tour de France.... 

[olegKon]

Wietse, a fantastic new type of Dutch still life pictures. I mean the one with your specialities of a few bulbs. Good luck with propagating them.

[olegKon]

 You are a marvelous beholder, Maggi. A genius of looking for gorgeous pictures

[Pauli]

I have a question about Allium caeruleum:
I bought the cheap bulbs in a garden center in the last two seasons, but saw nothing than a few leaves - no flowers from 40 bulbs. As they were very cheap I thought, they are easy to grow - obviously not for me. Can anybody help with instructions?