Allium 2013

[wmel]

Dear Wietse,
 How may we buy Allium  from you?

Maggi,


Of course we sell no bulbs (not yet) of many special Alliums we show on the forum, but from a slightly more familiar assortiment we do offer bulbs.
Our offer is listed on our website, see link below.
http://www.wmel.nl/?pagina=5&aanbod=B
For bulbs that we are selling, different than to export or mail order, we require a minimum order of 50 euros, sendcosts for buyer and payment in advance.
Our prices are ofcourse (much) lower than the prices of  mail order companies / bulbshops, so the prices are not on our website. I can send a personal e-mail with an Excel file with prices if you would like?

[Maggi Young]

Yes, please!
maggi AT bulblog.co.uk

[pontus]

the mid season/mid summer alliums are i full bloom here...

allium gypsaceum has just finished flowering, while allium guttatum dalmaticum and guttatum sarduoum are in full bloom

Pontus

[xthomasx]

On a completely different note:

Does someone know a good source for the real Allium ampeloprasum 'Pearl-Onion Group'? My parents grow it for decades already (from stock which my grandparents grew for more decades before) but the stock is somewhat degrading, so I'd be interested in some fresh blood.

Sources from within the EU (or other origins not in need of all the 'phyto' red tape) only, please!

Thanks a lot!

Thomas.

[wmel]

On a completely different note:
Does someone know a good source for the real Allium ampeloprasum 'Pearl-Onion Group'? My parents grow it for decades already (from stock which my grandparents grew for more decades before) but the stock is somewhat degrading, so I'd be interested in some fresh blood.
Sources from within the EU (or other origins not in need of all the 'phyto' red tape) only, please!
Thanks a lot!
Thomas.

I dont know this special allium ampeloprasum type and I have a lot of different types of ampeloprasum......
I think the best way to make a better stock is to find a flowering plant and start over from seed, trying to find a new/fresh good growing plant and use this for a new stock

[wmel]

Some beauty's flowering today....

allium pallens
allium paniculatum var minor
allium regelianum
allium scabriflorum

[wmel]

and some more

allium beesianum
allium cyaneum
allium ericetorum
allium hookeri
allium oleraceum

[wmel]

and just some photo's from bulb- and seedstorage
and a view of our allium"plants" field

allium amethystinum

[Rimmer de Vries]

and some more

allium beesianum
allium cyaneum
allium ericetorum
allium hookeri
allium oleraceum

Wietse
These are very nice
I am amazed your A  amethystinum is blooming now
Mine bloomed over a month ago and now I am harvesting seeds

[Stephen Vella]

Weiste Do you sell your dried allium seed heads? They are great for dried flower arrangements. Florists would fight for those flower heads. They look nice layed out in your seed storage boxes.

cheers

[wmel]

Weiste Do you sell your dried allium seed heads? They are great for dried flower arrangements. Florists would fight for those flower heads. They look nice layed out in your seed storage boxes.
cheers

We do sell one allium as seedhead, it is a special selected one with very "closed" seedheads
we registered this allium as "Green Craze"

[TheOnionMan]

Weitse, you always show us so much, much to comment on, thank you for sharing this information.

I'm always surprised by how certain plants flower about the same time and seem synchronized, even though on different continent; I have A. ericetorm and oleraceum looking just like yours.

Thanks for following up and showing red Allium regelianum, a lovely drumstick type, so happy to see it.  Your photo is one of the very few on the intranet!  And A. scabriflorum, I'm encouraged seeing such bountiful flowering, I do hope that this blue one becomes available more widely some day, would make an excellent companion to the red rotundum and sphaerocephalum drumstick types.  You could eventually flood the USA market with a special Allium collection, red Allium sphaerocephalon, white Allium guttatum ssp. sardoum, and blue Allium scabriflorum, it would sell like hot cakes (pancakes) here in the US with the red, white, and blue theme.  Just an idea.

Also wonderful to see Allium pallens, would like to see a closeup.  This species is very close to A. paniculatum, your plants look compact and floriferous, most attractive.  Regarding the pink-flowered plant labeled as Allium paniculatum var. minor, I find no such name combination, and while the photo is a bit far away from the subject, to me it looks like a dwarf pink form of Allium carinatum ssp. pulchellum (there are dwarf forms from Turkey, but their species assignment is disputed).  If you could post a close-up of that one too, it would be great.

What Allium species is 'Green Craze' seed pods from?  I assume these are being sold as cut "flowers" or cut "seed heads" in this case, for their undisputed ornamental value, rather amusing, I can see how the cut flower trade would be interested.

[wmel]

Mark,

It would indeed be a nice combination in red, white and blue!
The biggest problem is I think are the very small bulbs of scabriflorum and guttatum. Also, I have not really found a good storage method for scabriflorum. They are now drying out too much in dry storage, so I leave them in the ground.
As you asked I post a closup of allium Allium paniculatum minor and allium pallens.
Allium Green Craze is a selection of allium backhousianum.
2 other Alliums flowering now:
Allium paniculatum ssp paniculatum
allium parciflorum

[Stephenb]

I dont know this special allium ampeloprasum type and I have a lot of different types of ampeloprasum......
I think the best way to make a better stock is to find a flowering plant and start over from seed, trying to find a new/fresh good growing plant and use this for a new stock

I have grown pearl onions and sand leeks and some other cultivars of Allium ampeloprasum, but most are not very hardy here, the hardiest being Allium ampeloprasum babingtonii and Allium ampeloprasum "Oerprei" (Belgian)

I was able to source a number of Pearl Onions from Gatersleben last year, but sadly none survived the winter. I will try again next year with better protection...
These are the accessions I obtained, all German where Perlzwiebel are still. I think, cultivated commercially ( I know nothing more than this about these accessions)

Allium ampeloprasum ssp ampeloprasum
 ALL575 (German) Pearl Onion Group
 
Allium ampeloprasum ssp ampeloprasum
 ALL571 (German) Pearl Onion Group
 
Allium ampeloprasum ssp ampeloprasum
 ALL557 (German) Pearl Onion Group
 
Allium ampeloprasum ssp ampeloprasum
 ALL564 (East German/DDR) Pearl Onion Group
 
Allium ampeloprasum ssp ampeloprasum
 ALL576 (German) Pearl Onion Group
 
Allium ampeloprasum ssp ampeloprasum
 ALL551 (German) Pearl Onion Group
 

 

[Stephenb]

A couple of pictures showing various Allium ampeloprasum cultivars including Pearl Onions when I had success a few years ago

1) Elephant Garlic, Pearl Onions and Belgian Oerprei
2) Sand Leek, Babington's Leek and Oerprei
3) Pearl Onions