Muscari & relatives 2013

[Rimmer de Vries]

Following up on the progress of Muscari adilii

here is my plant from PC blooming today in the open frame (under snow flurries)

the plant tends to be prostrate with the stems bending to the ground as well as the leaves.

[Rimmer de Vries]

The attached photo is the first blooming of Hyacinthella atcheyi NARGS 2008 seed #1589

These were grown in the the cold frame and have not been moved in years, except for squirrels planting black walnuts in the pots.

The largest plant has leaf streaks.  can anyone tell me if the leaf streaks are from the cold, squirrel activity or a virus?

Thank you

Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hyacinthella  millegrenii from RRW

nice blue flowers short to no pedicils, thin stem, narrow glaucous leaves

is there a book or paper that describes all these various Hyacinthella?

without the labels from the source and photos form others to compare to i find it very difficult to identify these plants

Thanks
Rimmer

[Maggi Young]

is there a book or paper that describes all these various Hyacinthella?

without the labels from the source and photos form others to compare to i find it very difficult to identify these plants

Thanks
Rimmer

Rimmer, I think the general difficulty in naming these plants can e shown very well  by the fact that the RHS trial of these plants was simply  named the trial of "little blue bulbs" !!

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/planttrials/TrialReports/Hyacinthaceae%20hardy%202003.pdf
https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/PDFs/Plant-trials-and-awards/Plant-bulletins/hyacinthaceae

[Rimmer de Vries]

Maggie
 thank you so much for this paper!!!!
most appreciated

Rimmer

[Janis Ruksans]

Following up on the progress of Muscari adilii

here is my plant from PC blooming today in the open frame (under snow flurries)

the plant tends to be prostrate with the stems bending to the ground as well as the leaves.

If the colour is correct, it don't look as adilii.

[Gunilla]

Thank you Maggie for the paper  . Very useful. 

A white form of Hyacinthoides italica is mentioned in the paper. I have been searching this white form for many years. Anyone know where it can be found ? 

[Rimmer de Vries]

Thank you Maggie for the paper  . Very useful. 

A white form of Hyacinthoides italica is mentioned in the paper. I have been searching this white form for many years. Anyone know where it can be found ?

I read somewhere the white Hyacinthoides italica may be the same thing as what Janis offers as Scilla bifolia alba.

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10151.msg273444#msg273444

In Janis 2010 catalogue (last time item listed) Janis mentioned that his white Scilla bifolia 'Alba" fits the description of Hyacinthoides italica because of two minor bracts at the base of the pedicels where Scilla have only one or no bracts.  But since it looks so much like Scilla bifolia by flowers and bulbs he lists it as Scilla bifolia. 

This plant from Janis grows to a max of 15cm in my garden and cold frame, but some descriptions of Hyacinthoides italica in the web state 20-50cm.
http://www.buytech.biz/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_HYACINTHOIDES_1173.html

it is a good increaser and very floriferous, one of my favorites!

comments welcome!!

Rimmer

[Gunilla]

Hyacinthoides italica grow in many old gardens here and increase very well and are about 20-30 cm high.  My favorites as well even if they can be a little weedy.

The Scilla bifolia 'Alba' I grow are much smaller.

1. Hyacinthoides italica
2. Scilla bifolia 'Alba'

[Tiggrx]

This plant has just started flowering in my garden. I bought the bulbs as Bellevalia paradoxa but am pretty sure it is a Muscari. Does anyone know which species?

[Brian Ellis]

For those anywhere near Norfolk, Richard Hobbs' National Collection of Muscari is open on Sunday from 11 - 4

Featured in The Garden last year, Richard and Sally's small garden has a wide range of rare and unusual plants of great interest such as species tulips, daffodils, scillas, dog's tooth violets, many more bulbous plants and an abundance of trilliums and wood anemones. Within the garden the National Collection of Muscari is held.  Entrance £3 for NGS
Event Location: 16, Witton Lane, Little Plumstead NR13 5DL

I was there yesterday taking Herbarium specimens with our Plant Heritage group and there were some super muscari to be seen.

[Maggi Young]

For those anywhere near Norfolk, Richard Hobbs' National Collection of Muscari is open on Sunday from 11 - 4

Featured in The Garden last year, Richard and Sally's small garden has a wide range of rare and unusual plants of great interest such as species tulips, daffodils, scillas, dog's tooth violets, many more bulbous plants and an abundance of trilliums and wood anemones. Within the garden the National Collection of Muscari is held.  Entrance £3 for NGS
Event Location: 16, Witton Lane, Little Plumstead NR13 5DL

I was there yesterday taking Herbarium specimens with our Plant Heritage group and there were some super muscari to be seen.

Oh! I would love to be able to attend that Open Day - Muscari are something I get very confused about  identifying -the little blue bulb question! To see the collection would be most instructive, I'm sure. I'll bet there are plenty here who would really like to be able to study even photographs of the plants. 

[pehe]

Tony, thank you for the information! There is very little information to find about this selection so I am grateful for your posting.
I read about Autumn Glory in Roy Leeds book Autumn Bulbs several years ago, and had tried to get hold of it for long time.
Two years ago I got two bulbs from Ray Cobb via a generous forumist. Until now they have flowered reliably in October and again in spring. Martin Philippo (Muscari pages) has told me that the ones he has tried only flowered the first autumn.
Maybe the weather in Denmark suit them better. Anyway I hope they will continue flowering in the autumn.
I have been pollinating them without any luck every year, so maybe it is a sterile hybrid as  Ray suggest.
Here is the spring flower as it look today.

Poul

I have to correct myself - now seed pods are forming, so it isn't sterile! 
It will be exciting to see how seedlings will perform. Hopefully they keep the autumn flowering habit.

Poul

[johnralphcarpenter]

Lost label Muscari - can anyone identify?

[olegKon]

To my mind the first is Muscari macrocarpum, the second and the fourth are Muscari latifolium. It is difficult to say based on the picture what  the third is, as there are a lot of the similar type.