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David Nicholson

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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2013, 04:44:06 PM »
Hyacinthella millengresii and H. lineata from the greenhouse today. Lovely little things, but I'm never sure when they are fully open.

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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2013, 05:59:24 PM »
Yesterday I went to the Negev Desert to visit a site of  Muscari filiforme.
It hasn't flowered  in this location for the last 3 years due to the sever drought, but this year after 20mm of water and it is blooming.

What a Beauty! Great Pics Oron!

Beautiful Species David!  Here H. heldreichii (JJA571.140) and H. lazulina.
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2013, 10:18:29 PM »
Could someone tell me the difference between: white rose beauty and white beauty?

and the difference between: pink sunrise, pink sunset and rosy sunrise.


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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2013, 06:17:11 AM »
Could someone tell me the difference between: white rose beauty and white beauty?

and the difference between: pink sunrise, pink sunset and rosy sunrise.


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White-rose Beauty and White Beauty - the same (name White Beauty was applied for it by Michael Hoog because White-rose Beauty not allways in Holland showed pink shade)
Pink Sunrise and Pink Sunset are seedlings of White-rose Beauty - Sunrise is early blooming variety, Sunset - late blooming. Rosy Sunrise - suppose misaplied to one of them or mix of both or someone changed name.
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2013, 08:57:03 PM »
Janis,

Thank you for explaining it to me. I'am surprised by the huge amount of variety in muscari's, didn't know there were so much pink muscari's. I only knew pink sunrise.

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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2013, 10:17:32 PM »
How nice of you, Oron, to share all these unknown treasures with us. Is there a book where we can find them discussed?
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2013, 10:24:04 PM »
How nice of you, Oron, to share all these unknown treasures with us. Is there a book where we can find them discussed?
Alberto - I am hoping that these plants will feature in Oron's  planned book - I think many of us are waiting eagerly for this!
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2013, 12:29:53 AM »
Here H. heldreichii (JJA571.140) and H. lazulina.


Can someone explain the diagnostic distinctions between Hyacinthella heldreichii and H. lazulina?

i have grown both from purchased bulbs and my plants seem to be marked the opposite to Hans' identification.

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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2013, 01:17:49 AM »
Great pic of Muscari filiforme . I have seen it in Syria before.    Another use and abuse plant.  No other way to grow it.
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2013, 03:04:09 AM »
Dear Maggi, I am being sarcastic. How long could it take to write a book with a thousand species or so?
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2013, 06:28:54 AM »
Thanks every one,
Alberto; good to have you back here... ;)
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2013, 06:38:12 AM »

Can someone explain the diagnostic distinctions between Hyacinthella heldreichii and H. lazulina?

Thank you

Rimmer
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Rimmer, the only visible difference is the color:
H. lazulina heldreichii has a unique, very deep purple/blue color while H. heldreichii lazolina is sky blue with dark blue midrib.
In fact at first H. lazulina was thought to be only a color form of H. heldreichii but chromosome number indicates it to be a different species.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 06:28:20 AM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 06:52:57 AM »
Now this is some thing new:
I have received a bulb of this Bellevalia from Janis as Bellevalia sp. RRW9913.
It is doing very well here and has now 5 flower spikes.
After having the exact location from Bob Wallis, it all fitted to Bellevalia densiflora. It is the first time photo of this species is shown. Distributed in NW Syria and NE Lebanon.
This species characterized by very long glaucus leaves [35cm].
Flowers are creamy/yellow and anthers start pale lilac but after few hours they turn yellow which as far as i know is the only Bellevalia species to have yellow anthers.
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 07:30:42 AM »
Great pic of Muscari filiforme . I have seen it in Syria before.    Another use and abuse plant.  No other way to grow it.
Reichjke

Rick,
M. filiforme is endemic to a small area in the Negev desert [S. Israel].
I think you have probably seen Pseudomuscari inconstrictum in Syria, the two species are quite similar.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2013, 07:34:07 AM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Muscari & relatives 2013
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2013, 10:52:53 AM »
Now this is some thing new:
I have received a bulb of this Bellevalia from Janis as Bellevalia sp. RRW9913.
It is doing very well here and has now 5 flower spikes.
After having the exact location from Bob Wallis, it all fitted to Bellevalia densiflora. It is the first time photo of this species is shown. Distributed in NW Syria and NE Lebanon.
This species characterized by very long glaucus leaves [35cm].
Flowers are creamy/yellow and anthers start pale lilac but after few hours they turn yellow which as far as i know is the only Bellevalia species to have yellow anthers.

This is a slightly odd-looking plant  - it is exciting  to see it.
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