Muscari & relatives 2013

[Tim Ingram]

Tatsuo's picture must be the same as this plant in the garden from Rannveig Wallis, Muscari armeniacum 'Gul', which presumably originated from the JJA collection. As details of these Muscari proliferate, I imagine the chance of a monograph recedes, but it would be extremely interesting, along with related groups. In the garden they have always been quite neglected bulbs, with people just thinking of the weedy species. I've always thought they complement other bulbs perfectly.

[Tony Willis]

Some other Muscari:

Muscari coeleste
Muscari azureum
Muscari aucheri 'Autumn Glory' with two flowers. The first appeared in October and now another flower is appearing. (Which is normal for this selection)

Poul

A note I received from Ray Cobb about M.aucheri  Autumn Glory

'Muscari ‘Autumn Glory’ was selected by me from a group of muscaris given to me by Ron Ginns and which flowered intermittently between October and January, The selection was made in an attempt to produce a clone which flowered reliably in October. This was unsuccessful and Autumn Glory flowers at any time during the late Autumn or early Winter probably depending on the weather in the previous Summer.
The un-cloned population has been supplied to a bulb nursery and I am proposing the name ‘Winter Cheer’ It was said at the time that it had been collected in the wild and is M. aucheri but I think it may be M aucheri x armeniacum.'

[pehe]

A note I received from Ray Cobb about M.aucheri  Autumn Glory

'Muscari ‘Autumn Glory’ was selected by me from a group of muscaris given to me by Ron Ginns and which flowered intermittently between October and January, The selection was made in an attempt to produce a clone which flowered reliably in October. This was unsuccessful and Autumn Glory flowers at any time during the late Autumn or early Winter probably depending on the weather in the previous Summer.
The un-cloned population has been supplied to a bulb nursery and I am proposing the name ‘Winter Cheer’ It was said at the time that it had been collected in the wild and is M. aucheri but I think it may be M aucheri x armeniacum.'

Tony, thank you for the information! There is very little information to find about this selection so I am grateful for your posting.
I read about Autumn Glory in Rod Leeds book Autumn Bulbs several years ago, and had tried to get hold of it for long time.
Two years ago I got two bulbs from Ray Cobb via a generous forumist. Until now they have flowered reliably in October and again in spring. Martin Philippo (Muscari pages) has told me that the ones he has tried only flowered the first autumn.
Maybe the weather in Denmark suit them better. Anyway I hope they will continue flowering in the autumn.
I have been pollinating them without any luck every year, so maybe it is a sterile hybrid as  Ray suggest.
Here is the spring flower as it look today.

Poul

[pehe]

Pics from today: Muscari adilii from Janis Ruksans and Paul Christian

Poul

[Janis Ruksans]

Pics from today: Muscari adilii from Janis Ruksans and Paul Christian

Poul

They are too different. I don't think that PC plant is true to name.
Janis

[art600]

Any thoughts on these two muscari

Third photo is Hyacinthella lazuluna

[ebbie]

Hyacinthella acutiloba

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hyacinthella acutiloba

This looks like what I know as H dalmatica.

[Mark Griffiths]

very nice Ebbie, thanks for sharing.

[pehe]

Any thoughts on these two muscari

Third photo is Hyacinthella lazuluna

Couldn't the first one be Muscari leucostomum / neglectum?
http://home.tiscali.nl/hennessy/Species%20and%20cultivars.htm

I have a similar one, and another unknown.

Poul

[Mark Griffiths]

Poul, that second one looks interesting - will you post another pic when it gets a little more developed?

[pehe]

Surely I will Mark. I find it interesting too. It is a new one I got last autumn.

Poul

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hyacinthella acutiloba

Hyacinthella acutiloba from a bulb from RR Wallis
this is a bit less stout than Ebbie's plants

Hyacinthella dalmatica grandiflora will bloom in a week or so and it is stout like Ebbie's plants

[ebbie]

Look Rimmer, so sees my Hyacinthella acutiloba out today. Do you mean it's really Hyacinthella dalmatica? I think it's possible, but I'm not a specialist.

Please show your Hyacinthella dalmatica when it blooms.

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hi Ebbie,
my H dalmatica blooms a few weeks later than H. actiloba but these two are very similar.
the H. dalmatica is like a miniature dutch hybrid hyacinth with a strong stem while the Hyacinthella acutiloba  has a tread like stem similar to most hyacinthella.

there is a possibility that what i have is a hybrid !?  it originally came from Monocot Nursery

attached is a picture of it today  followed by a photos of it blooming last March (spring was early last year)