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Gerry Webster

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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2013, 11:43:26 AM »
It was found a long way from Hakkari

When I think of all the green and brown frits given specific names, it seems strange that people are trying to fit this quite distinct frit into an existing one  ???

I will post mine when it flowers
Arthur -  According to Rix subsp. hakkarensis "is known from Hakkari & northeastern Iraq."

I have no particular views on the identity of your plant & no competence with respect to the matter. I was simply pointing  out (relying on Rix) that the appearance of the plant is more consistent with it being subsp. hakkarensis than subsp. poluninii.
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2013, 11:50:51 PM »
Having seen poluninii in Iran, I would say Ian's plant is definitely poluninii.

Northern Iraq is still a long way from the site of specie nova.
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Gerry Webster

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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2013, 10:57:54 AM »
Having seen poluninii in Iran, I would say Ian's plant is definitely poluninii.

Northern Iraq is still a long way from the site of specie nova.

Arthur - Rix (writing in 1974) states that subsp. hakkarensis "is known from Hakkari & northeastern Iraq". This does not preclude it occurring elsewhere; I don't think plants respect geopolitical boundaries.

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According to Rix, subsp. poluninii "is known only from the Sulaimaniya district of Iraq"

While I have no views on whether your plant is or is not a new species, I would be very interested to know why you think it is.

The appearance of Ian's plant  seems to conform to Rix's description of subsp. poluninii.
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2013, 11:32:53 AM »
Bob Wallis identified it as a new species.

Poluninii was found near Marivan, a town in Iran and distant from Sulaimaniya district in Iraq.  Marivan is, however, close to the border with Iraq.
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2013, 05:56:09 PM »
Here it is

I had said this plant was assyriaca, I am now informed it is probably uva-vulpis.  All I can say is - I like it very much and it is infinitely better than the uva-vulpis I put in the garden :)
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2013, 01:32:38 PM »
The Frits are starting to come out. I got this pluriflora by accident, it was supposed to be something else but when it flowered I instantly knew what it was (doesn't usually happen with me with Frits). I get the feeling it's a little in decline. I have now only one seedling left from it.

I'm wondering whether it's too shaded - looking over some old pics I realise the greenhouse is a lot more shaded than it was so I'm planning to move it soon.

 
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2013, 09:44:20 AM »
Hello all. It is my first post to the Frit thread.

Fritillaria japonica, a patternless flower mutant and so called 'white flower type' in Japan. But only small spots are left at outer base of each perianth.
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2013, 11:18:04 AM »
lovely!
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2013, 02:22:52 PM »
Thanks, Mark :) Your sugar pink one is sweet, too ;)
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2013, 04:07:00 PM »
A nice plant, Mark. I did not even know before. It is now on my wish list.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2013, 04:59:19 PM by ebbie »
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2013, 01:28:03 PM »
very nice, is that another Japanese one?
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2013, 02:58:34 PM »
Ron  excellent,very nicely grown.
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2013, 11:25:31 AM »
Ron

I have not tried the Japanese frits, but your perfectly grown plants make me want to try.
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2013, 02:42:45 PM »
Another Japanese frit

Fritillaria ayakoana
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Re: Fritillaria 2013
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2013, 02:52:59 PM »
nice, are they all light coloured? (this coming from someone with a bunch of brown, brown and green, greeny brown, browny green and green ones)
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