Fritillaria 2013

[Mark Griffiths]

those look good Oron, distinctive looking too.

[Tony Willis]

very nice plants above,a more modest one

Fritillaria carica

[Mark Griffiths]

Nice, I'm hoping for some flowers on mine but I think that's a forlorn hope.

[Jozef Lemmens]

I am sure, someone can help me with the identification of this Fritillaria. I have these plants from seed collected by Josef Jurasek in 2006. Collection area is Dededol Dag – Turkey (2200 m). The plants are about 12 cm high. The flower colour is a little bit variable.

[art600]

Jozef

I would think that is a very beautiful pinardii.

I will post my equivalent shortly.

[Gert Hoek]

A beautifull compact growing Fritillaria aurea -large form- and they mean the flower , plants is 5 cm and flower 3,5 cm.

[Wim de Goede]

Jozef

I would think that is a very beautiful pinardii.

I will post my equivalent shortly.

Jozef, I think it is a orange form of Frit. carica

[Gerry Webster]

I think it is impossible to identify with confidence from photos & it could be either carica or pinardii . Both can have styles which are 3-fid at the apex.

[Gerry Webster]

A beautifull compact growing Fritillaria aurea -large form- and they mean the flower , plants is 5 cm and flower 3,5 cm.

Gert - that is a very fine F. aurea. I think the large form is quite rare in cultivation (& said to be difficult). Where did your plant come from?

[Mark Griffiths]

I think it is impossible to identify with confidence from photos & it could be either carica or pinardii . Both can have styles which are 3-fid at the apex.

Gerry, how do you tell the difference between the two? I had a plant that was supposed to be carica but I thought was probably pinardii - how do you tell the difference?

Lovely pinardii Josef and aurea Gert. I think I have something similar that came from Norman Stevens - but no flowers this year

[Maggi Young]

 Getting away from the flowers- I think that carica has its leaves starting lower down the stem and only one upper leaflet  near the flower.  F.  pinardi has a longer clear stem at the foot and often two leaflets near the flower  - none of this is hard and fast though, I don't believe!

[Gerry Webster]

Gerry, how do you tell the difference between the two? I had a plant that was supposed to be carica but I thought was probably pinardii - how do you tell the difference?

Lovely pinardii Josef and aurea Gert. I think I have something similar that came from Norman Stevens - but no flowers this year

I attach the relevant entries from Flora of Turkey - A Xerox copy so not brilliant quality.

Norman did supply the giant form of F.aurea on a few occasions. Not being a skilled cultivator, I never bought it because he said it was difficult to grow.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks for the carica/pinardii differentiation, Maggi and Gerry.

Found a pic of the aurea from a few years back. looks like it's the dwarf form. This year leaves only but I hope to build it back up.

[ashley]

Wonderful plants all

This one came from a seed exchange as F. drenovskii 'large form' but has basal leaves up to 4 cm across.
Can anyone identify it or suggest what it might be?

[Gerry Webster]

Ashley  - my first thought - based on the flower -  was either  F. caucasica or F. armena but in Rix's descriptions he gives the max. width of the basal leaves as 2cm for both. So, I don't know.