Fritillaria 2013

[Matt]

To you all Fritillaria experts,

I would be grateful if you could identify this species in flower now in the Val Rosandra meadows near Trieste - Italy.

Thank you in advance.

Matt

[ashley]

Fritillaria involucrata

Another elegant beauty Gerry.  I liked your NOT GRAECA whittallii too.

[Arda Takan]

To you all Fritillaria experts,

I would be grateful if you could identify this species in flower now in the Val Rosandra meadows near Trieste - Italy.

Thank you in advance.

Matt

I didn't know there were Frits in europe..
Since I don't know much about Frits. all I can do is to suggest this website
http://www.fritillaria.org.uk/imagesanddata.htm

[Gerry Webster]

To you all Fritillaria experts,

I would be grateful if you could identify this species in flower now in the Val Rosandra meadows near Trieste - Italy.

Thank you in advance.

Matt

Matt - your plant looks like F. meleagris which is widespread throughout Europe, including Italy. However, I've never seen one with so much yellow in the flower. Are they all like this?

[Matt]

Matt - your plant looks like F. meleagris which is widespread throughout Europe, including Italy. However, I've never seen one with so much yellow in the flower. Are they all like this?

Thank you for the reply Gerry.
Yes, the population is quite consistent with regard to the yellow marks on the flowers. The "background" brownish checked colour is also very constant...there are no white flowers - no magenta - no purple as you can see in the famous meadow in Oxford. To follow more pics take in the same location few years ago by Mirella Campochiaro.
The bigger problem for me with F. meleagris is not only the aspect but also the growing conditions. The dry, sun backed and stony meadows near Trieste have nothing to do with the fertile and very wet meadow at Magdalen College.

M.

[Gerry Webster]

The bigger problem for me with F. meleagris is not only the aspect but also the growing conditions. The dry, sun backed and stony meadows near Trieste have nothing to do with the fertile and very wet meadow at Magdalen College.

M

Matt - do these meadows never get flooded?

I initially hesitated before replying because of the colour & now I wonder again since the leaves on your second set of pics seem somewhat broader than on the plants I'm familiar with though the arrangement is similar. However I suppose this is just regional variation since I cannot see what  this could be (given that you are in northern Italy) other than F. meleagris.**

How tall are the plants?

**Edit: But see my next post.

[Gerry Webster]

Matt - I have just looked more carefully at your second set of photos. These appear to show a whorl of 3 leaves (bracts) below the flower. This suggests F. orientalis (synonyms: F. tenella, F. montana) also recorded from Italy.

[olegKon]

Agree with you, Gerry. It looks a Montana group one.
First fritillaries here
1 First flowering of Fritillaria serpenticola for me
2 Fritillaria tubiformis moggridgei from Susan Band
3.Fritillaria aff.chlorantha received as 2 year old seedlings from Norman Stevens some years ago
4.Fritillaria stenanthera
5 Fritillaria caucasica

[Gerry Webster]

Fritillaria meleagroides   

From Frit group seed, derived from a collection made in Poltavs'ka oblast, Ukraine.

An aesthetically challenged plant;  although it is 65cm tall the flower is smaller than that of F. meleagris - only 3cm long.
Though not really worth growing,  it seems very easy.

[ebbie]

Fritillaria meleagris has flowered, now blooming Fritillaria pyrenaica.

[Matt]

Matt - I have just looked more carefully at your second set of photos. These appear to show a whorl of 3 leaves (bracts) below the flower. This suggests F. orientalis (synonyms: F. tenella, F. montana) also recorded from Italy.

That's the one! Now that u have given me a name I have consulted Italian books on wild flora and they confirm your identification.

THX a lot!

M.

[Graham Catlow]

I think I'm just about getting the hang of these. Managed to flower some this year. I seem to be able to produce lots of rice on some of them.

Could someone please identify the one in the first photo. I have no idea where the label is.
The one in the second photo was bought as F. gibbosa but it's not so an i.d. for that also would be helpful please.

Photos:
1. unknown
2. not F. gibbosa
3. F. meleagris 'alba'
4. F. pontica.
5. F. hermonis armana

[Maggi Young]

Lovely frits, everyone.
Graham, your "unknown" is F. affinis tristulis

[Graham Catlow]

Lovely frits, everyone.
Graham, your "unknown" is F. affinis tristulis

Thanks Maggi
I shall add a label tomorrow.

[olegKon]

Fritillaria season is on here. Some from yesterday struggling against nearly 30C heat.
1.Fritillaria oblique
2. Fritillaria collina (without a petal)
3. I think it is also Fritillaria collina (any correction will be highly appreciated)