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Anthonyh

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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2013, 10:21:25 PM »
Grumpy Steve,

Yes, as others have said, your green tipped is nice... maybe slightly more green on the tips than mine. I had wondered about chipping as I haven't done a woronowii before.
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2013, 02:33:14 PM »
Anthony,
Glad you liked my green tip.Yours is nice too.As regards chipping your woronowii,all you have do is bigger slices,i have done a couple of woronowii's now and have found small chips just do nothing,4-8 chucks works for me.Hope that helps?
Here's another picture of 'North Hayes'for everyone's enjoyment.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2013, 03:56:35 PM by MR GRUMPY »
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #92 on: February 09, 2013, 02:35:08 PM »
And another
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #93 on: February 09, 2013, 08:13:13 PM »
Steve, what magnificent snowdrops!
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2013, 08:23:28 PM »
Thanks Steve... I will try that as soon as one of the two daughter bulbs I have get to flowering size... which should be next year... and I'll practice on some 'plain' woronowii this year. 

I agree with Natalia... those are beautiful.
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2013, 09:29:34 PM »
Anthony and Natalia,Thankyou for your kind words and keep watching,because if the last picture does what it did last year and it looks to me as if it will,you'll be amazed(i hope?)Or i will look very silly.
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Anthony Darby

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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2013, 05:20:04 AM »
My goodness, the last time I checked this was on page two. :o
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2013, 06:47:01 PM »
That's what I was wondering - if green tips are more likely to be purely genetic since they do seem to be an inheritable characteristic. Or whether they could also be caused by phytoplasma infections. If they are inherited from parent to seedling then it looks like genetics. But sometimes green tips and stripes are not inherited by the seedlings, and sometimes snowdrops will have green tips or stripes one year and not in other years. And what about the partial virescens of snowdrops which don't just have green tips but aren't totally virescent, with a number of green markings, like 'South Hayes' (which also tends to lose its green markings when twin scaled - which could indicate a phytoplasma infection which is 'cleaned up' by twin scaling). It might be difficult to establish a hard and fast rule that virescens may be due to phytoplasma but green tips are always genetic. It could be one cause in one snowdrop and the other cause in another snowdrop. Each case would have to be investigated individually.

Martin, such strange behavior of Trym or South Hayes type snowdrops when twin-scaled is characteristic of periclinal or sectorial chimera plants originated not by genetics but due to cellular chimerism in embryo. And thus we could observe such "strange" situation, when a part of twin-scaled bulbils originated from one mutant genome tissue would conserve true South Hayes type plants, but other bulbils from not mutant tissue of twin-scaled bulb would be just not mutant common snowdrop plants of maternal plant origin. So, in this case it isn't phytoplasma impact, nor inheritable feauture, but just chimera plant, imho!!
see here http://generalhorticulture.tamu.edu/hort604/lecturesuppl/anatomychimeras/anatomychimeras05.htm
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2013, 11:31:30 AM »
Dimitri, thank you for all the links and your expert advice. I'm learning a lot here :)
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2013, 12:07:58 PM »
Dimitri, thank you for all the links and your expert advice. I'm learning a lot here :)

you're always welcome, Martin!  8)
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2013, 03:17:44 PM »
Hope your 'trailing colon' soon gets better Alan  ;D
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2013, 03:56:45 PM »
Didn't you read, Mav?  I had it removed.
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #102 on: February 18, 2013, 10:42:18 PM »
At last here is the photo's i promised.
1. Green tip in bud
2. Green tip in flower
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #103 on: February 18, 2013, 10:50:47 PM »
Here are the picture's of my special woronowii.This is the second year with us.As you can see from the(poor)photo,the other flower is half way in between.I like it,what do you all think?.
1. Green tip in bud
2. Green tip in flower (Clovis Type)
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Re: Green tipped woronowii
« Reply #104 on: February 20, 2013, 02:01:09 PM »
Steve the second one is very interesting.
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