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I'm coming back to Tropaeolum now after a break; I had a few disappointments when my Tr. brachyceras, raised lovingly from seed and kept going for many years all rotted and I lost the tubers. I also lost my Tr. azureum, germinated the seed I collected last year and grew a couple of good sized tubers, kept those tubers healthy over autumn/winter in sand and had very nice plants growing and producing flower buds when a rogue cockatoo knocked the pot to the ground and smashed both plants off at ground level! So yes, I've had some bad luck. I think I've recovered from the shock of these disasters and I'm ready to start building the collection again.Fermi, if you read this; your friend who has the beautiful ciliatum in her garden, she ought to consider keeping and handling the seedlings as they pop up. It's such a lovely thing I would love to have it here. If she ever does have seedlings or even tubers could you pass on my details to her and I would buy them from her.Steven and J-P, is the Tr. pentaphyllum ssp. megapetalum going to be offered in the next SRGC Seed exchange? Hi Jamus,Yours is quite a sad story but it happened to me several times. I think one can never be sure to keep a Tropaeolum tuber forever. One day it rots and we wonder why, having done nothing special. This is a real catastrophy when it's a rare species which can't be replaced. I sow seeds each year in order to be able to face these unpredictable losses. But sometimes seeds don't grow or don't produce any tuber...and with rare ones seed stock is often limited. For instance the Tr Brachyceras I grew this year mostly had sterile flowers. So no seed to replace in case the tuber rots...Referring to Tr Pentaphyllum ssp megapetalum: I also grow this one but my plant started later than Steven's one. And it's not in bloom yet. So I doubt I'll harvest any seed. And I don't know whether I'll take part to the seed exchange from now on.JP