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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2013, 04:26:37 PM »
Looks as though you having a very good season Arnold, I'm having a shocker and the Crocuses are even worse.

One that is showing though here Narcissus asturiensis x N. 'Candlepower'. One of Anne's pretty little crosses.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2013, 04:34:12 PM »
Thanks David.  It had been much too warm for a week, but now settled back to 20-35 F which is more like usual.  The big snow we had last Friday is all but gone after temps in the 40's and rain.

I think the SA bulbs are struggling with light levels.

Miniature Narcissus seem to be not bothered by that.

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2013, 05:37:42 PM »
Very nice Arnold.


I think the SA bulbs are struggling with light levels.

Miniature Narcissus seem to be not bothered by that.
Lucky You - they are certainly bothered here
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2013, 06:41:40 PM »
Looks as though you having a very good season Arnold, I'm having a shocker and the Crocuses are even worse.

One that is showing though here Narcissus asturiensis x N. 'Candlepower'. One of Anne's pretty little crosses.
Not one of mine, David, it's one of Brian Duncan's. They're ahead of mine.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2013, 08:21:26 PM »
Not one of mine, David, it's one of Brian Duncan's. They're ahead of mine.

Sorry Anne, I've just checked, yes it is Brian's cross but I got it from your 2012 List, that's what caused my label mishap. Having said that I checked through copies of Brian's Lists and in his 2011 he says of this cross "tiny all white Trumpet" are any of yours white?
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2013, 09:21:13 AM »
Hi David, I got that one from Brian's 2008 list, which I can't find to see what it was supposed to be like. I bought 2 bulbs which were identical, which is where yours came from.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2013, 10:39:58 AM »
I cannot find Brian's 2008 list, but that from 2010 gives these variations on similar crosses :
 
 C.03/78/2  Hybrid (Candlepower x N.asturiensis 0030)
 
C.01/19 Hybrid (N.asturiensis 0023 x Candlepower)
 
C.03/77/2  Hybrid.(N.asturiensis 0030 x 'Candlepower')
 
C.03/77/1  Hybrid.(N.asturiensis 0030 x 'Candlepower')
 
Not that I'm sure this helps at all!
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2013, 06:42:57 PM »
Here are two Narcissus cordubensis one from France and the other from a  a grower in California.

A slight different in the lobed corona.  Blanchard states " deeply 6-lobed and crenate."

As one can see the one from the French colleague is much more deeply lobed that the California plant.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2013, 06:51:27 PM »
Narcissus johnstonii which is listed as a Narcissus pseudonarcissus L. × Narcissus triandrus hybrid

× johnstonii (Baker) Pugsley, in J. Roy. Hort. Soc. 58: 37 (1933) (Narcissus) = N. × taitii. FCC 1887


Narcissus dubius
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2013, 07:08:06 PM »
Narcissus Cedric Morris in my glass house and in an open frame.
Narcissus Julia Jane in the glass house.

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2013, 08:00:14 PM »
Narcissus johnstonii which is listed as a Narcissus pseudonarcissus L. × Narcissus triandrus hybrid

× johnstonii (Baker) Pugsley, in J. Roy. Hort. Soc. 58: 37 (1933) (Narcissus) = N. × taitii. FCC 1887
Arnold, look up the old discussions on 'Queen of Spain'  -that has also be known/confused with johnstonii - and  as far as I know johnstonii is a yellow  long trumpet type .......    :-\

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2013, 12:20:34 AM »
Maggi:

I think I discovered the problem.

It should be Narcissus dubius.

Can you change the caption?


Oh those labels...


Edit : change made in Arnold's previous post  ;)

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2013, 02:41:47 PM »

Narcissus dubius
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Nice flower. I have a couple of clones. It grows but never flowers. What is the secret ?
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2013, 02:45:22 PM »
Ian:

I can say that it gets a blistering baking during the summer months at 110F at times.  During growth a good drink once per week. It's plunged in a sand gravel mix.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2013, 02:52:28 PM »
Ian:

I can say that it gets a blistering baking during the summer months at 110F at times.  During growth a good drink once per week. It's plunged in a sand gravel mix.

Arnold thanks it is probably the heat that it is missing here particularly after last summer :'( So I will try it in the sunniest place I can  :-\
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