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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2013, 11:15:07 AM »
Thanks for compliments alltogether!

Rafa, Thank you for additional information too! Indeed I am not sure whether the plants called here
' x susannae ' are also of a Narcissus albicans parent origin. I didn't separate my plants by origin but made
a selection from different sources by shape and colour of the flowers.
So nevertheless I hope that ' x susannae ' isn't totally wrong here.

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #106 on: March 14, 2013, 02:45:08 PM »
A couple in flowe today

Narcissus alpestris ms842

Narcissus cantabricus ssp monphyllus from Spain Filabres
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #107 on: March 14, 2013, 04:13:09 PM »
Both nice Tony. I have some alpestris you were kind enough to send me, a few years ago now, labelled as from "Casteljon de Sus?" but I struggle with them.

A few here from my pretty poor Narcissus year:-

N. cyclamineus from seed sown 2008 and flowering for the first time. Destined for the garden when I re-pot
N. asturiensis this is flowering for the first time for me but I got the original bulb way back in 2008!
N. 'Mitimoto' from Anne's List a couple of years ago
N. 'Douglasbank'  another from Anne's List.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #108 on: March 14, 2013, 04:17:16 PM »
A few more:-

Narcissus bulbocodium var. nivalis
N bulbocodium var. graellsii

and a couple from the garden both of which were flat on the ground yesterday after a battering from wind and frost:-
N. 'Topolino'
N. 'Cornish Chuckles'
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #109 on: March 14, 2013, 04:35:43 PM »
David

the place is Casteljon de Sos (my poor writing on the label) in the Spanish Pyrenees. It is a shame they do not do well for you, they must like my climate better. Mine are still a month of flowering.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #110 on: March 14, 2013, 04:47:52 PM »
Thanks Tony. I've still got time then!
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #111 on: March 14, 2013, 05:19:49 PM »
Nice plants David.  Despite our (presumably) similar climates NN. asturiensis & cyclamineus are almost over here while bulbocodium vars. have yet to start.

I like your alpestris Tony; is this clone self-fertile?   
I have a batch of seedlings that are progressing well in a pot outdoors but are still a year or two off flowering. 
By contrast N. moschatus bulbs planted in the garden about 5 years ago are only settling down now :P

... Narcissus cantabricus ssp monphyllus from Spain Filabres

looking rather polyphyllus ;)
 
Ashley Allshire, Cork, Ireland

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #112 on: March 14, 2013, 05:28:26 PM »
Narcissus hedraeanthus subsp./var.  luteolentus

This name is accepted by Flora Iberica & Blanchard but not by Kew who regard it as a synonym of N. hedraeanthus.  However, it seems distinct & is more willing to flower with me.

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #113 on: March 14, 2013, 05:35:05 PM »
Nice plants David.  Despite our (presumably) similar climates NN. asturiensis & cyclamineus are almost over here while bulbocodium vars. have yet to start...........

By contrast N. moschatus bulbs planted in the garden about 5 years ago are only settling down now .........
 
N. cyclamineus came in to flower a few days ago here but N. asturiensis is just starting.
N. moschatus settled down within a year - it died.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2013, 05:40:03 PM by Gerry Webster »
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #114 on: March 14, 2013, 05:36:42 PM »
Ashley

the alpestris has come from one bulb from Mike salmon about 20+ years ago and has never set seed.It is only about five years ago that it actually started dividing. I have a lot of alpestris from my own collection and these being multiple clones set seed readily.
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #115 on: March 14, 2013, 07:12:21 PM »

N. moschatus settled down within a year - it died.

as did mine and as have all previous batches of moschatus bulbs I've tried
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #116 on: March 14, 2013, 07:33:50 PM »
as did mine and as have all previous batches of moschatus bulbs I've tried
Then I shouldn't moan, but will be loth to divide or move them to avoid yet more years of just leaves.

The MS clone is doing very well with you Tony.  Do your other alpestris differ from it or show variation?

A fine hedraeanthus Gerry 8)
« Last Edit: March 14, 2013, 07:36:28 PM by ashley »
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2013, 11:22:45 PM »
Ashley

my own collections seem much more robust and are later flowering. The ones from Casteljon are much whiter than the MS form  and the higher altitude forms from Cerler are more cream with more substantial flowers. The latter have been described as a different species but I corresponded with Dr Norman who had also seen them in the wild and he agreed with me that they are not. I do off course also have a yellow one which is slowly building up. I will post pictures when they flower.
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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #118 on: March 15, 2013, 12:39:32 AM »
Narcissus 'Flashback', one size up from N. cyclamineus.  Last year I crossed it with N.cyclmaineus and now I wonder why.

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Re: Spring flowering Narcissus 2012 - 2013
« Reply #119 on: March 15, 2013, 07:00:22 AM »
That's a lovely pot of alpestris. It is definitely my favourite white narcissus.
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