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Heinz Meyer
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March 07, 2013, 05:08:05 PM »
Can somebody help me to identify this Fritillaria
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March 07, 2013, 06:52:25 PM »
Fritillaria meleagris?
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David Nicholson
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March 07, 2013, 07:28:50 PM »
Fattish leaves in whorls are not like meleagris - I'm thinking more like F. pingwuensis, which is listed under F. sichuanica in Flora of China, but it differs sufficiently to be accepted as separate species.
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So, what do I know
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David Nicholson
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Quote from: David Nicholson on March 07, 2013, 07:34:34 PM
So, what do I know
Don't fret , David, it looks superficially like a meleagris.
The late Hans Hoeller sowed a similar Chinese plant in 2007 and Ian came up with the same answer for it as I've given. (so we might both be wrong!)
Here's Hans' plant
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March 07, 2013, 08:06:45 PM »
BD chimes in here.... might be F. monantha - hard to tell from a picture, of course.
From the online Flora of China :
Fritillaria monantha Migo, J. Shanghai Sci. Inst. Sect. 3, 4: 139. 1939.
天目贝母 tian mu bei mu
Fritillaria guizhouensis Y. K. Yang et al.; F. huangshanensis Y. K. Yang & C. J. Wu; F. huangshanensis f. tonglingensis (S. C. Chen & S. F. Yin) Y. K. Yang & Y. H. Zhang; F. hupehensis P. K. Hsiao & K. C. Hsia; F. lichuanensis P. Li & C. P. Yang; F. monantha var. ningguoica Y. K. Yang & M. M. Fang; F. monantha var. tonglingensis S. C. Chen & S. F. Yin; F. ningguoensis S. C. Chen & S. F. Yin; F. puqiensis G. D. Yu & C. Y. Chen; F. qimenensis D. C. Zhang & J. Z. Shao; F. thunbergii Miquel var. puqiensis (G. D. Yu & C. Y. Chen) P. K. Hsiao & S. C. Yu; F. wanjiangensis Y. K. Yang et al.
Bulb of 2 or 3 scales, 1.2--2 cm in diam. Stem 20--60(--100) cm. Leaves opposite, whorled, and alternate; leaf blade oblong-lanceolate to lanceolate, 5--12 × 1.5--3 cm, apex slightly cirrose. Inflorescence 1(--4)-flowered; bracts (1--)3, apex often slightly or strongly cirrose. Flower nodding, tubular-campanulate; pedicel 1--3.5 cm or more. Tepals greenish yellow to pale purple, tessellated or spotted with yellowish brown or dark purple, sometimes very heavily so, oblong-obovate to oblong, 3.5--5 × 1--2 cm, apex obtuse; nectaries projecting abaxially. Stamens ca. 2 mm; filaments glabrous or slightly papillose. Style 3-lobed; lobes 3--8 mm. Capsule broadly winged; wings 6--8 mm wide. Fl. Apr--Jun, fr. Jun--Jul. 2 n = 24*.
* Forests, moist places on limestone hills, flood lands; 100--1600 m. Anhui, Henan, Hubei, Jiangxi, Sichuan, Zhejiang.
Fritillaria sichuanica S. C. Chen, Acta Bot. Yunnan. 5: 371. 1983.
华西贝母 hua xi bei mu
Fritillaria chuanbeiensis Y. K. Yang et al.; F. chuanbeiensis var. huyabeimu Y. K. Yang & D. H. Jiang; F. cirrhosa D. Don var. ecirrhosa Franchet; F. fujiangensis Y. K. Yang et al.; F. glabra (P. Y. Li) S. C. Chen var. qingchuanensis (Y. K. Yang & J. K. Wu) S. Y. Tang & S. C. Yueh; F. mellea S. Y. Tang & S. C. Yueh; F. pingwuensis Y. K. Yang & J. K. Wu; F. przewalskii Maximowicz var. longistigma Y. K. Yang & J. K. Wu; F. qingchuanensis Y. K. Yang & J. K. Wu; F. taipaiensis P. Y. Li var. zhouquensis S. C. Chen & G. D. Yu; F. wenxianensis Y. K. Yang & J. K. Wu; F. xibeiensis Y. K. Yang et al.
Bulb of 2 or 3 scales, ovoid-globose, 1--2 cm in diam. Stem 20--50 cm. Leaves 4--10, basal ones generally opposite, middle and distal ones usually alternate and opposite, very rarely also whorled; leaf blade linear to linear-lanceolate, 3--14 cm × 2--8 mm, apex not cirrose. Inflorescence 1- or 2(or 3)-flowered; bract solitary. Flowers nodding, campanulate; pedicel 0.8--2.5 cm. Tepals yellowish green, spotted and tessellated with purple (sometimes very densely so to become purple), oblong or obovate-elliptic, 2.5--4 cm × 5--13 mm; nectaries ovate to oblong, slightly projecting abaxially. Stamens 1.5--2.5 cm; filaments glabrous or papillose. Style 3-lobed; lobes 2--4 mm. Capsule narrowly winged. Fl. May--Jun, fr. Aug--Oct. 2 n = 24*.
* Hill thickets, grassy slopes; 2000--4000 m. S Gansu, S Qinghai, W Sichuan.
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Re: Fritillaria
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March 08, 2013, 04:55:03 PM »
Thank you Maggi, Fritillaria monantha that he can be,
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Heinz Meyer, Northwest of Germany Zone 7 b - 8 a
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March 08, 2013, 07:17:59 PM »
Super group of ( I also would say
F. monantha
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As someone who lives on almost the same latitude and with also proximity to the sea, I would like to emulate your group. My plants of this species are 'trapped' in the greenhouse at the moment, where they are fine and doing well. Are yours in the open garden? If so what type of soil do you have please? Mine are in pots and acidic soil, but I would like to release them if possible?
Did you also grow from seed?
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March 12, 2013, 06:31:28 PM »
Hello ronm,
The plants grow in the garden of a friend, it is unfortunately not mine. But they are growing in the garden, as I understand it is a loamy sand soil.
You must excuse my English, because I use the Google translator
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March 12, 2013, 06:44:32 PM »
Yes, the pictures were taken last year in April
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